I'm simply trying to make an alias that places a note inside of a chest. Exactly like the amulet on the bandit from the http://www.creationkit.com/Bethesda_Tutorial_Quest_Objectiveson alias's. However it fails to fill, and when I load the mod in the CK I get an error saying that alias has issues. This is the error message I get with everything set up like I think it should be:


Does anyone have any ideas on why this would have an issue? I say 'Create Reference to Object', select the unique note I have created (A copied vanilla note, or 'Book'), level - Easy, Create In, and then I select the chest which I have also made an alias. The chest is just a 'Specific reference' alias that I pointed to the chest that I've placed in my level. The chest is a copy of the 'TreasBanditBoss' chest, minus a few loot things, and I've added a few loot things. (A set amount of money, etc)

The alias's dont fill ingame (meaning one of them failed), and it refuses to work.

Alternatively, could I place the note in the chest (Since the player CANT get to the chest without having the quest started) then somehow make the quest find that note and fill the alias with it?

Any ideas?

AJV

Just a quick note ... someone else is having a scarily similar problem ...

... I'm beginning to suspect the involvement of our friend Mr Dialogue-Bug

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1409781-alias-reference-match-condition-problem/

Well I changed the alias to a 'specific reference' and just placed the note near the chest, and now it works just fine... It's not ideal but it will work.

I hope the dialogue isn't causing the 'place at/in' alias types to fail. I'm not sure that I see how it even could... Then again with these bugs I suppose anything is possible.

I alternate between believing all of this Dialogue/Game-Start-Enabled/Location is the same bug OR that it is seperate bugs, all coming about from the DG DLC implementation

Whatever and whichever, debugging is becoming a real problem when/if we are not sure what is a bug and what is our coding

Well, I know you get that error message if you create the container alias after the alias of the thing you create in it. You don't mention the order you make them in?

I was just encountering the problem myself, always encountered when the container/npc Alias was located below the item in the list. If the item alias is below the container/npc Alias, it will work.

EDIT - Removed post after reading both Ingenue and Arron's post

Ah, I did create the chest after the note. Let me try deleting both and redoing it in the correct order!

No need to delete, you can use the arrows at the bottom of the list [<<] [>>] to change the order

Interesting, I wasn't aware the order of alias creation actually mattered, but I guess it makes sense.

Awesome, I'll try that.

Swapping their order worked. I guess it cant create an alias in another one before it fills that one.

Would you mind testing something out since I was trying to do exactly what it sounds like you are doing: putting a letter in a chest? Put a condition on the letter alias and see if it still creates the letter. It would be much appreciated (by me).

I put a condition on a letter of Player level .== 10. Since this condition wasn't met, the letter failed to be created.
I then tried starting the quest again with the player at level 10, the letter was then created.
Hope this helps

Hmm, well this might help confirm that my CK is having all kinds of strange issues. A reinstall is in my future.

Although in his test the condition was set to run on the Player ... is yours?




And I must have done the same thing as AV like 10-20 times at least ... are you telling me that by luck I got it in the right order everytime!?

(I have to check out some old stuff I did, I can't believe I've been that lucky that often?)

Not explicitly but according to the wiki it runs on the player, which I'm not entirely sure how that works or what that exactly means. I haven't tried all the options in the "run on" dropdown menu yet.

http://www.creationkit.com/Quest_Alias_Tab#Fill_Type_Conditions

What condition are you running on the letter to be created?

I'm creating a reference to a letter object, let's say SLQNote2, creating *in* SLQChest (alias for the chest that holds the letters). In the conditions box I put GetStage SLQMain >= 20.000, where 20 is the stage that is set when the player reads the first letter. So basically the player picks up the first letter, which sets the quest to stage 10, then reads it, which sets the stage to 20, which is when the second letter should show up in the chest.

This is my point.

The test up above had a condition ON THE PLAYER (What is the player's level?).

Yours is not testing the player, it's testing a quest.

And we found, back in that wiki article, that conditions on Create-In Aliases can only be run, on-the-player

Is that just the difference? Try changing your condition to be player.level, or something similar and see if it runs ... if it does then I think the issue is defined but may well not be solveable (at least in the way you want)?

Yes I haven't tested it yet I was just answering that person's question. I'm interested to know myself.