In the daeD ytiC chapter, I finally got into the previously locked room in Dead City - I'm speaking of the one that could only be accessed by an RC Bomb car thru a drain tunnel during the first visit to Dead City. You really couldn't get into the room on the first visit because if you'd been following the story thus far there was no way you'd have and RC Bomb car yet. On the reverse trip thru Dead City later in the game when I finally get back to that same house/sm bldg the door to that room is no longer locked, you don't need the RC car to access it, but there is no Large Mutant Car in the room to be found! All guides I've seen say it's supposed to be there. Well it's not. This happen to anyone else playing with XB360, or any platform? Do any of you have the Large Mutant card? It's only a big deal because I want to get them all for the achievement.

In my previous playthrough i picked it up after the 1st trip into the city, but before the 2nd using a bomb car.

Now in my second playthrough I found it just fine on my first trip into the city, also using a bomb car.

Maybe you didn't notice that you picked it up? I've picked up cards next to other items without realizing it and wondered where the card is supposed to be. If you're keeping track of which cards you're picking up then compare them to the amount you have or go play the card game to see which ones you have.

You can in the storyline get the RC car before you go through the dead city for the first time. If you do the sheriff's quests and get the the Cuprino, he'll give you the job to take out the Shrouded clan.

Yes . . . you are right, you can. . . but I didn't. And I now know that if you don't go back a 2nd time, prior to the data retrieval mission for Capt Marshall, the contents of the room will be changed in the data mission and the Large Mutant card will not be there. . .I had to go back to an old save, almost 3 hours back, which luckily I had, go to Dead City and fight a bunch of mutants, get a dozen or more of their bone pile rewards, and finally retrieving the collectors card from the room. Next I began playing catch up until I finally got to the Dead City mission again.

So . . . to all interested: If you don't get the Large Mutant card the first time you are in Dead City, you can only get it get it by returning there (make sure you have an RC Bomb car to send thru the drain tunnel) a 2nd time, and that time must be before getting the data retrieval mission from capt Marshall. Once you've done that you can continue on and get the data mission . . . which will therefore be your 3rd trip thru the Dead City.

I hope this helps some of you trying to get all of the collector cards because once you get the data mission to Dead City you are SOL if you think you are going to get the card during that mission and you won't be able to get it at all during your present play through the game.

Bummer that you had to go back to an old save. I know the feeling - I restarted completely after the jailbreak mission when I read about all the cards I had missed and couldn't go back to get.

I know . . . right? I'm really having fun with Rage but that's one really irritating thing about the design . . . there are so many things you will absolutely miss on an honest first playthrough unless you know in advance what to do. I personally like the thrill of the unknown and exploration, and don't really want to know where everything is in advance, and I'd prefer to go back at the end of the game and finish collecting, finish car jumps, etc. but you can't, and nothing accumulates towards your next playthrough either. . . . and as much as I like the game, I'm not sure I want to play it through an entire second or third time. I don't usually repeat playthroughs with RPG type games. Even though this is an RPG/FPS hybrid it's still a 25-30 hour undertaking for folks like me who don't rush through games.

ha ditto mate was a Tad frustrating but I just got on with it.