Learn your modem: Fix your lag.

Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:01 pm

Theres nothing the wrong with my connection...the game is BROKEN...the problem with one bar connection even happens if the host has a 100/100Mbit connection...as it did when me and my friends played the game and one of us got host...only the host had full green bar and the rest red/yellow, he has a 100Mbit connection and we all live in the same country...sooo the game is broken.

There is nothing broken with the game, since I did the above most of my connection issues are resolved. Doesn't matter about speed of connection it's about quality you need to test your ping on pingtest.

In a recent post of mine called "Crysis 2 and ping" I did some experiments and concluded that what they need to do is add regional filters and pick better hosts but the game is not broken.

I've currently level 13 after prestiging so have alot of experience and the game is FAR for broken. It may seem like a lot of people are complaining but considering the 100's of thousands of copies they've sold only a 100 or less people on this site are biching all the time. The game is not perfect, but it's very good.

learn to evaluate objectively.


i'm on a 70meg down and 20 meg up....and theres nothing wrong with my ping....so yeah....the game is broken when it picks the most random hosts with the worsts connections...bullet delays with up to 5 seconds or more=bad host!

so if you dont think theres nothing wrong with the game then you probably didn't play it!
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:14 pm

@TwistedBuddhaX

"ONLY 100 PEOPLE OR LESS HAVE PROBLEMS"

yeah right...keep telling your self that...maybe you should check out all the other threads about connection issues!
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:14 pm

The guide is well explained and all, but it is totally useless. Might help some people that use google to search for google, or those who erase a whole sentence when they make a typo on the first word.
Having knowledge wont solve the problem, I know the world is screwed but does my knowledge of it being screwed make it less screwed? No, something has to be done, and believe it or not, if so many people are having problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems and problems (yes, this was necessary).... with the game, the problem is most likely the games fault (like 99% of chance of being the game's fault).

It's not totally useless (like you said) if someone's NAT type is strict or Moderate which was the main focus of the guide. I used the guide and now my NAT is permanently Open and now I can connect better, less lag and I have a near constant 3 bars unless the host is useless. It helped a lot.

So having knowledge in this case does solve a problem. I regards to many many etc people having problems, that's true, but in this case the OP suggested a solution (a rare quality) rather than complaining and expecting everyone else to solve their problems for them and as a result for someone with NAT type strict or Moderate helps immensely.

There are problems such as no regional filter, migrations rarely work, picking bad hosts. Which I will agree with you on. But some of the problems are on our "end" which the OP addresses.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:41 pm

Theres nothing the wrong with my connection...the game is BROKEN...the problem with one bar connection even happens if the host has a 100/100Mbit connection...as it did when me and my friends played the game and one of us got host...only the host had full green bar and the rest red/yellow, he has a 100Mbit connection and we all live in the same country...sooo the game is broken.

There is nothing broken with the game, since I did the above most of my connection issues are resolved. Doesn't matter about speed of connection it's about quality you need to test your ping on pingtest.

In a recent post of mine called "Crysis 2 and ping" I did some experiments and concluded that what they need to do is add regional filters and pick better hosts but the game is not broken.

I've currently level 13 after prestiging so have alot of experience and the game is FAR for broken. It may seem like a lot of people are complaining but considering the 100's of thousands of copies they've sold only a 100 or less people on this site are biching all the time. The game is not perfect, but it's very good.

learn to evaluate objectively.


i'm on a 70meg down and 20 meg up....and theres nothing wrong with my ping....so yeah....the game is broken when it picks the most random hosts with the worsts connections...bullet delays with up to 5 seconds or more=bad host!

so if you dont think theres nothing wrong with the game then you probably didn't play it!

The host isn't automatically the fastest connection. It will be the person in the lobby who has the lowest average latency with all the other players. This will depend on the geographical distance between each player in the lobby and the quality of their upstream connection. If you have the best connection but are on the West coast and the rest of the lobby are on the East coast, someone with an inferior connection to you will be picked from the East coast players to be host.

Also, the bandwidth (70down, 20up) of your connection has virtually no effect on your lag. Bandwidth and latency are two separate things. Bandwidth is how fat the pipe is, that is, how much data can come through the connection at the same time (important for torrents and downloading). Latency or ping, is how fast that data gets there. In online gaming, it's all about the latency.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:52 am

In fairness if peoples connections are fine with other games LIKE MINE IS.. then I shouldn't really have to be delving into my Modem options.. the Netcode is not working and the whole "well Crysis 2 is throwing a lot of effects a jazzy stuff around so it will choke your connection " is complete bollox. Crytek must be aware that the MP isnt up to scratch and at this moment in time very tempted to trade the game in

Think a few people with there oh so uber l33t fiber optic connections need to get a grip ..seriously.. My connection is fine ..Open NAT ..wired and works flawlessly with every other shooter I play Like BFBC2 ..COD ..even AC:Brotherhood plays fine

Crytek need to Patch the MP ASAP or I can foresee a lot of people wanting to trade this game in ..

In reference to "delving into modem options" this is only necessarily as the guide suggests if your Nat Type is not Open, which it appears it is Open so the guide is not of benefit to you. So your issues must them be related to something in-game like I've mentioned previously on this thread.

I'm not defending Crytek but some issues are on our side of the net and some of theirs, mostly the latter. Just speaking facts people.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:47 pm

@TwistedBuddhaX

"ONLY 100 PEOPLE OR LESS HAVE PROBLEMS"

yeah right...keep telling your self that...maybe you should check out all the other threads about connection issues!

Even if we were to overestimate and say 500 (please note that people often multiple post as well), then it's still "small potatoes". Last time I checked the Leaderboards there was about 300k people, perhaps a bit more but any more would just support the argument i'm about to make even more.

Let's say 500 people have reported to have issues with game-breaking lag. That 500 out off 300000. That's less than 0.02%.

The game may have issues for less than 0.02% of people and may be broken for them, but I play it several hours a day and it's far from it. I'll say it again, picking better hosts and a regional filter will reduce this figure further. Crytek is not going to invest stupid amount of money in reprogramming for a "handful"of people, it's bad business practice.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:25 am

8/10 games, I am host and I still have a terrible experience. I have the same problem in BOps but COD4, MW2, All BF games, and Monday Night Combat are totally fine.

To the person suggesting Input Lag. Yes, this is a consideration. My TV is a Sony Bravia KDL32EX603 and is set to Game Mode which I understand reduces the visual processing and the input lag is 33ms. Not great but considered acceptable and coupled with me being host most of the time should not affect my gaming experience. I have tried the 360 coupled to the TV with both HDMI and VGA (some people report that VGA reduces input lag to just the LCD response time (appox 8ms) but there is not firm documented evidence that this works on Sony TVs only some Samsungs. The gaming experience is identical on either HDMI or VGA.

I will at some point try it on a Dell LCD Monitor and see what happens but I don't expect much difference.

Regarding "netcode". My understanding of this term is how the game processes prediction. Most FPS games move too fast for every frame to be in sync across every client simultaneously. Subsequently, key frames are used and frames in between are interpolated to predict where the player was during the missing frames. If this is off, you get bad hit detection. Another technology that was introduced in BOPS is lag compensation. This was put in to stop host advantage and introduce similar lag for all players. I have no idea if this is in Crysis2 but it's a terrible idea which punishes players with fast low latency connections.

The explanation of Netcode is interesting, thanks for the info as I didn't know what it was.

However, I find that "netcode" is not an issue at all when there is a good host and I have no hit detection issues at all. I'm a 2.6 kd player and can say that when I die the majority of the time it was bad luck, my mistake or I got outplayed.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:03 am

@TwistedBuddhaX

"ONLY 100 PEOPLE OR LESS HAVE PROBLEMS"

yeah right...keep telling your self that...maybe you should check out all the other threads about connection issues!

Even if we were to overestimate and say 500 (please note that people often multiple post as well), then it's still "small potatoes". Last time I checked the Leaderboards there was about 300k people, perhaps a bit more but any more would just support the argument i'm about to make even more.

Let's say 500 people have reported to have issues with game-breaking lag. That 500 out off 300000. That's less than 0.02%.

The game may have issues for less than 0.02% of people and may be broken for them, but I play it several hours a day and it's far from it. I'll say it again, picking better hosts and a regional filter will reduce this figure further. Crytek is not going to invest stupid amount of money in reprogramming for a "handful"of people, it's bad business practice.


what part of the MP is broken that you don't understand?...and crytek is going to do something about since the game has so MANY bugs! i thought even a idiot understood that theres something wrong...but i was wrong :P

BTW. explain this then...how come i've played so many games were one person has full bars and EVERYONE else has ONE BAR????
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:42 pm

Am I just ignorant or did TC use Modem in the place of router a lot? >_>.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:39 pm

I usually play with US people or UK, I live in France, generally got three or two bars for my connection even if it Sux. Playing smart I have my kills...
Just playing Wired instead of Wi-fi. If i play wifi, my bullets are lost in my house'walls :).
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:54 am

@TwistedBuddhaX

"ONLY 100 PEOPLE OR LESS HAVE PROBLEMS"

yeah right...keep telling your self that...maybe you should check out all the other threads about connection issues!

Even if we were to overestimate and say 500 (please note that people often multiple post as well), then it's still "small potatoes". Last time I checked the Leaderboards there was about 300k people, perhaps a bit more but any more would just support the argument i'm about to make even more.

Let's say 500 people have reported to have issues with game-breaking lag. That 500 out off 300000. That's less than 0.02%.

The game may have issues for less than 0.02% of people and may be broken for them, but I play it several hours a day and it's far from it. I'll say it again, picking better hosts and a regional filter will reduce this figure further. Crytek is not going to invest stupid amount of money in reprogramming for a "handful"of people, it's bad business practice.


what part of the MP is broken that you don't understand?...and crytek is going to do something about since the game has so MANY bugs! i thought even a idiot understood that theres something wrong...but i was wrong :P

BTW. explain this then...how come i've played so many games were one person has full bars and EVERYONE else has ONE BAR????

By the same token how come almost every game I play in everyone has green bars? For every person saying "this game is broken yadda yadda yadda...." there is another saying they have no problems.

So its fair to say there are issues, but they are not all affecting everyone. I think its important people realise that! Your own experience is not the definitive one.

Seeing as I and many others enjoy predominantly lag free games and a far better experience than Black Ops. So I suppose there may be more to those with problems than a "netcoding problem".
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:45 pm

Even if we were to overestimate and say 500 (please note that people often multiple post as well), then it's still "small potatoes". Last time I checked the Leaderboards there was about 300k people, perhaps a bit more but any more would just support the argument i'm about to make even more.

Let's say 500 people have reported to have issues with game-breaking lag. That 500 out off 300000. That's less than 0.02%.

The game may have issues for less than 0.02% of people and may be broken for them, but I play it several hours a day and it's far from it. I'll say it again, picking better hosts and a regional filter will reduce this figure further. Crytek is not going to invest stupid amount of money in reprogramming for a "handful"of people, it's bad business practice.[/quote]


what part of the MP is broken that you don't understand?...and crytek is going to do something about since the game has so MANY bugs! i thought even a idiot understood that theres something wrong...but i was wrong :P

BTW. explain this then...how come i've played so many games were one person has full bars and EVERYONE else has ONE BAR????[/quote]

By the same token how come almost every game I play in everyone has green bars? For every person saying "this game is broken yadda yadda yadda...." there is another saying they have no problems.

So its fair to say there are issues, but they are not all affecting everyone. I think its important people realise that! Your own experience is not the definitive one.

Seeing as I and many others enjoy predominantly lag free games and a far better experience than Black Ops. So I suppose there may be more to those with problems than a "netcoding problem".[/quote]

if i say everyone else in the game has ONE BAR it's not only my game experience!!!
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Even if we were to overestimate and say 500 (please note that people often multiple post as well), then it's still "small potatoes". Last time I checked the Leaderboards there was about 300k people, perhaps a bit more but any more would just support the argument i'm about to make even more.

Let's say 500 people have reported to have issues with game-breaking lag. That 500 out off 300000. That's less than 0.02%.

The game may have issues for less than 0.02% of people and may be broken for them, but I play it several hours a day and it's far from it. I'll say it again, picking better hosts and a regional filter will reduce this figure further. Crytek is not going to invest stupid amount of money in reprogramming for a "handful"of people, it's bad business practice.


what part of the MP is broken that you don't understand?...and crytek is going to do something about since the game has so MANY bugs! i thought even a idiot understood that theres something wrong...but i was wrong :P

BTW. explain this then...how come i've played so many games were one person has full bars and EVERYONE else has ONE BAR????[/quote]

By the same token how come almost every game I play in everyone has green bars? For every person saying "this game is broken yadda yadda yadda...." there is another saying they have no problems.

So its fair to say there are issues, but they are not all affecting everyone. I think its important people realise that! Your own experience is not the definitive one.

Seeing as I and many others enjoy predominantly lag free games and a far better experience than Black Ops. So I suppose there may be more to those with problems than a "netcoding problem".[/quote]

if i say everyone else in the game has ONE BAR it's not only my game experience!!![/quote]

Indeed but again virtually every game I'm in is full of green bars. So thats not my "exclusive" experience. And I just have normal bog standard internet. And there are plenty of others saying the same.

Perhaps its a regional thing I'm in the UK and perhaps where I live there are lots of people playing Crysis 2 as I'm usually against UK players judging by chat and gamertags and the tip of checking dogtag flags someone gave me!

Who knows, but its broken for some and not for others. And thats the key, understanding why some are having issues and not others!
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:30 am

I would like Crytek to explain what they changed between the demo and the retail version as I had no lag at all in any game I played in the demo version. The demo was the reason I bought the game so to find such a massive difference in my online experience leaved me feeling very cheesed off.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:42 pm

Im what one might call technically illiterate, i dont work in an office, but how does ping 135 ms, download speed 1.45 mbps, and upload speed 0.23 mbps rate? I am going to guess it svcks but like i say, i dont know enough about computers to have an opinion.
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Im what one might call technically illiterate, i dont work in an office, but how does ping 135 ms, download speed 1.45 mbps, and upload speed 0.23 mbps rate? I am going to guess it svcks but like i say, i dont know enough about computers to have an opinion.

It svcks. Both your upstream speed and the connection latency are too slow for a decent gaming experience. Bare min, you want 0.5Mbps upstream and sub 100ms ping. Anything over 50ms ping will be noticeable.

Go to Pingtest.com and see how it grades your connection.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:18 pm

I have 6Mbps down and 1Mbps up with a ping from pingtest of between 25-35ms for UK servers.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:59 am

@Rag. Not good. lol.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:48 pm

I belive domain is aka ip address which if that is the case im boned, i have been trying to figure it out for an hour now, sagemcom se567, wife chucked the box with the manual in it, and the internet seems useless on this venture.
Scratch that, found ip and ip is obviously not the domain. i feel like a retard asking but what would the domain be for pingtest, thanks for the help and sorry to put everyone through this.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:44 pm

Image

and yet, svcky gaming experience.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:04 pm

Ping, Offline 0ms? confused as hell right about meow.
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:28 am

Finally got to the damn router menu, added the 360 to the dmz, finally no more messages telling me i have a strict firewall, its OPEN! HAHA VICTORY!
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Post » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:54 am

@TwistedBuddhaX

"ONLY 100 PEOPLE OR LESS HAVE PROBLEMS"

yeah right...keep telling your self that...maybe you should check out all the other threads about connection issues!

Even if we were to overestimate and say 500 (please note that people often multiple post as well), then it's still "small potatoes". Last time I checked the Leaderboards there was about 300k people, perhaps a bit more but any more would just support the argument i'm about to make even more.

Let's say 500 people have reported to have issues with game-breaking lag. That 500 out off 300000. That's less than 0.02%.

The game may have issues for less than 0.02% of people and may be broken for them, but I play it several hours a day and it's far from it. I'll say it again, picking better hosts and a regional filter will reduce this figure further. Crytek is not going to invest stupid amount of money in reprogramming for a "handful"of people, it's bad business practice.


what part of the MP is broken that you don't understand?...and crytek is going to do something about since the game has so MANY bugs! i thought even a idiot understood that theres something wrong...but i was wrong :P

BTW. explain this then...how come i've played so many games were one person has full bars and EVERYONE else has ONE BAR????

Yes, an idiot might believe they "understand" that the game is broken, however an intelligent person wouldn't because it isn't. That's why I cannot understand it apparently being broken because I'm not an idiot.

Kindly, cease to post on this thread if name-calling is your primary method of communication. Everyone else has been mature and responded with sensible views/opinions and backed them up with constructive arguments.
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