Lore After 2E 830

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:52 pm

Does anyone know exactly when the game takes place? I have done a little research and it looks like the game features the Aldemeri Dominion and takes place before the Septim Empire. This means some time after 2E 830 and before 2E 864 (which is when Redguard takes place).

Given this time frame, does the notion of Molag Bal being in the Imperial City threaten lore?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:52 pm

Does anyone know exactly when the game takes place? I have done a little research and it looks like the game features the Aldemeri Dominion and takes place before the Septim Empire. This means some time after 2E 830 and before 2E 864 (which is when Redguard takes place).

Given this time frame, does the notion of Molag Bal being in the Imperial City threaten lore?
The date of the original dominions founding was only ever given in the pocket guide to the empire which is known to be mostly lies and imperial propoganda

The game takes place at any point after 2E 431 and before 2E 852
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:28 pm

the date of the original dominions ofunding was only ever given in the pocket guide to the empire which is known to be mostly lies and imperial propoganda

Okay, Id like to get another opinion on this please. Also, when did Imperials come into the picture? I know Talos was a Nord, the first men on Tamriel. Were there Imperials back in 2E? Or just Nords and Bretons?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:40 am

Okay, Id like to get another opinion on this please. Also, when did Imperials come into the picture? I know Talos was a Nord, the first men on Tamriel. Were there Imperials back in 2E? Or just Nords and Bretons?
Tiber Septim was a breton from High-rock, his supposed nordic past, and him hailing from Atmora, are, again, Imperial lies.

Anyways "Impeirlas", or at least the people that became them, have existed since the mythic era.

The nedic peoples, and various other human races such as the Kothringi, were on Tamirel before the nords came.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:56 am

Tiber Septim was a breton from High-rock. His supposed nordic past, and him hailing from Atmora, are, again, Imperial lies.

anyways Impeirlas have existed since the early first Era

Furthmore the nedic peoples and various other human races were on Tamirel before the nords came.

Thats obviously not true. I have no idea where you got that from, please give a source. (Especially for the Tiber being a Breton)
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:40 am

The Arcturian Heresies say Tiber Septim was a Breton. Kind of funny tbh. Then again it is one of two theories. One where Tiber is a Nord and another where he is a Breton. I will second the Breton theory though.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:21 pm

Thats obviously not true. I have no idea where you got that from, please give a source. (Especially for the Tiber being a Breton)
The Arcturian Heresy
http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Arcturian_Heresy

the Ghost of old Hroldan
http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Ghost_of_Old_Hroldan

Michael Kirkbride's posts
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride
Lorkhan and his avatars:
1. Wulfharth L
2. Hjalti O
3. Ysmir R
4. Talos K
5. Arctus H
6. Septim A
N

Tiber was a breton named Hjalti from high rock. He merged with the nord Ysmir Wulfharth, and Zurin Arctus to form Talos

TALOS IS LORKHAN, SON OF SITHIS, REBORN


As for the Nedes
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-others
On the origin of Nedes
The usual Imperial arrogance. The hoary old "Out of Atmora" theory has been widely discredited (no reputable archaeologist would publicly support it these days), but the Imperial Geographers continue to beat the drum of the Nordic Fatherland in the best tradition of the Septim Empire. They seem to think that the imprimature of officialdom gives their outdated scholarship added weight -- which, unfortunately, it appears to in the eyes of the ever-gullible public which continues to snap up the latest Pocket Guides along with the rest of their Imperial Certified pablum.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride
Out of Atmora (07/10/08):
And for the last time (uh huh), Nedes != Atmorans. That's just shoddy scholarship from a bygone regime.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:27 pm

Does this mean there were Imperials at the time?

After reading what you have presented I agree with you.

However:


1. Wulfharth L
2. Hjalti O
3. Ysmir R
4. Talos K
5. Arctus H
6. Septim A
N

Doesn't make sense. The letters have nothing to do with the names and there aren't even the same amount of names as there are letters. Who is N?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:11 pm

Does this mean there were Imperials at the time?
Yes, there were

Doesn't make sense. The letters have nothing to do with the names and there aren't even the same amount of names as there are letters. Who is N?
No one knows who the N is, at least as far as I know, but I belive that Tullius, Ulfirc, and the Dovahkiin are the N

The end of the skrim Civil war is a imitation of the same act that merged Tiber, Ysmir, and Zurin into Talos.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:54 am

Yes, there were


No one knows who the N is, but I belive that Tullius, Ulfirc, and the Dovahkiin are the N

The end of the skrim Civil war is a imitation of the same act that merged Tiber, Ysmir, and Zurin into Talos.

1. Wulfharth L
2. Hjalti O
3. Ysmir R
4. Talos K
5. Arctus H
6. Septim A
7. _______N
Septim + Arctus + Ysmir = Talos
Hjalti = Septim
Ulfric + Tullius + Dovahkiin = x

x = Talos?

There is no pattern. How can three on the list become another on the list... all the while another on the list is the same as one of the three!?!?!?!

And then... One on the list is the formation of three who are not on the list but since they do the same thing as the original three by all logic they should be on. Are there now ten divines? Since there are many more than just the 7 incarnations isnt this list wrong?

How can a single man who becomes a third of Talos be an incarnation as well as all three thirds of Talos be one incarnation.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:37 am

There is no pattern. How can three on the list become another on the list... all the while another on the list is the same as one of the three!?!?!?!

And then... One on the list is the formation of three who are not on the list but since they do the same thing as the original three by all logic they should be on. Are there now ten divines?
Tiber, Ysmir, and Zurin were all Shezzarines, avatars of Shezzar, the imperial name for Lorkhan, when they merged they became Talos.

Tiber(Lorkhan) + Ysmir(Lorkhan) + Zurin(Lorkhan) = Talos(Lorkhan)

Lorkhan + Lorkhan + Lorkhan = Lorkhan

And its not known if the Dovahkiin, Tullius, and Ulfric did merge, it is thought so, but until ES6 we wont know, and if they did they will probably just take Talos's place
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