Hey guys,

My first post, but I want to make it a good one. So as we are all aware, the 360 version of the game is essentially missing the graphical prowess the rest of the systems are enjoying. I got the game earlier today and I've been playing it since; however, since I was aware of the issue, I wanted to make sure I kept a look out for it. In essence, I performed several experiments on my two 360's to see what the results were on the textures.

The texturing problem can be broken down into 3 separate categories: 1) Low-Res Textures associated with installing, 2) low- res textures associated with no installing/off the disk, 3) low - res textures that aren't properly loading no matter how you are playing (installed or not).

Let me start with (3). This issue is the most prevalent, meaning it affects ALL of us (yes, read the correctly, "ALL"). All throughout the game, there is a whole ton of low textures that are not supposed to be low. How do I know? Well, the proof is that there is no way every table or every bench or treasure chest is comparable to N64/Morrowind graphics, especially when previous released images show them loading up perfectly and clearly. And previous games (Oblivion/Fallout 3) look infinitely better when it comes to these types of textures. Once in a blue moon, I get a fully loaded chest, and it looks good. In fact, nearly all pathways suffer from the universal low-texture bug, and its easily noticeable when the ground goes from really nice high quality texture to a low quality texture of the same ground texture. There are times when the stars align and all the textures around you is as it is supposed to be (high quality) and the game looks phenomenal. This tends to happen a lot when you are not indoors (including towns). SOME Snow also falls into this category.

The outside seems to face this universal low-texture problem much much much less than in town. In fact, most of the universal low-res textures happen on paths, walls, and furniture. In either case, installing on HDD, USB or playing off disk does NOT fix this issue. And yes, this TRULY is a BUG. I have also checked my roommates PS3 version of the game, and I've checked the same locations and it is all perfect. And this is not because of the PS3's hardware. The difference in quality is drastic, unlike the usual PS3 and 360 comparisons.

(2): For the texture glitches associated with not installing/playing off the disk, there is a separate set of textures not loading. One example of this is some weapons and such. And certain rocks around the enviornment

(1): For texture glitches associated with installing, there is a separate set of textures not loading. One example is the tower with the 3 bandits right before Bleak Falls. This tower's exterior suffers when you have installed, but is fine when not installed. (The interior suffers no matter what because of [3]).

Anyways, my test was done on 2 360's and 1 PS3, with HDD, USB and disk. This is what I have noticed. My purpose is that this graphical issue/nightmare get repaired soon. Digging the game so far however, its freaking magnificent. I just really want the graphical fidelity the rest of the systems get to enjoy, aka, no glitches and full textures.

Now that you've told me about the bad textures that affect all of us, I started to notice the bleached out white snow.

I think I might put off playing this game until this is patched.

to long, but regardless i have NO issues at all with any of the textures, on xbox 360 played off disc all day for more than 5 + hours with no texture loading problems, i tink everyone is trying to see the problem that doesnt exist and make it become a problem, the game is beautiful, all textures and scenery is more than A+ ( for me atleast) Dont no hat to say,play off the disc

....No, the problem exists. Also playing from the disk doesn't do a thing. Inform yourself.

While the problem may exist, it's not game-breaking by any means. "oh my goodness! The treasure chest isn't in high definition resolution!!! What?!?" *throws controller through the plasma and proceeds with a golf club on the console*.

Okay, but seriously? It's not a big deal. It will get fixed. Just quit looking so hard into every detail. Just enjoy the game for itself and not the pieces.

This issue just hit Game Informer's website. They know about it and plan to fix.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/11/11/bethesda-addressing-texture-issues-for-skyrim-on-xbox-360.aspx

I'm not looking hard, the problem is looking me right in the face. Maybe you just don't have an eye for this sort of thing but it is seriously jarring.

Something that is bothering me about this is that I went online and read a few news articles regarding the subject. All of them seem to be under the impression that this only happens when installing to the HDD, when all of us here are pretty aware that that actually has nothing to do with it. I wish this was getting proper publicity instead of making it seem like such a trivial issue as just not installing. If websites were reporting this properly it might cause Bethesda to work a little faster to get the bad press off their backs. Instead it just looks like a minor issue when in reality it's actually not. Major gaming websites need to start reporting this properly. It's a major issue on one of the years biggest titles.

may i also add that the texture problem is also present on the ps3? come over to the ps3 forum and check it out i even have pictures. Its not just an xbox only problem, both systems need to be patched.

i agree with you 100% it has nothing to do with hdd install,sometimes before a level loads the 3d loading screen downscales, but this is not all the time.

Afew months ago I was questioning whether to spend ￡1000 on a TV or upgrading my computer JUST for Skyrim. Seems like it didnt matter either way.
Yeah the texture issue is a bummer, but the game itself is so beautiful and rich I wouldn't stop playing it due to that.
But I can understand the great deal of frustration, considering I bought a big tele just for it !
Ow well
Just wait patiently for the patch.

Happy Waiting!

I dont know how some of you think I'm not enjoying the game. I've been playing nearly all day straight and having a blast. BUT there is a huge graphical issue going on here and it needs to be fixed. I want to bring more and more attention to it, till Bethesda fixes. I love their games and I want to see them at their fullest. That being said, I'm kind of also glad the PS3 is having a few texture issues, since this forces them to look at the problem even more.

I don't want this game to turn into Assassin's Creed 2: Brotherhood for the consoles. ACB had this graphical glitch that caused the top half of the screen to have a white gradient bar. It rendered the game pretty much useless but reviewers and the company refused to acknowledge this fact. In the end they responded by saying it was an ''artistic feature''. No, sorry, not an artistic feature. It ended up being a graphical glitch that added an extra gradient filter to the game.

So this is why I want to put the spot light on the issue. If we don't say it, it won't get fixed.

Thanks for taking a more comprehensive look at the texture issue and posting about it. I am a touch disturbed that Bethesda stated the problem could be worked around by simply playing the game from the disk. Clearly, not installing the game helps with some of the issues…but definitely not all of them.

I am also more than a bit troubled that none of the industry “media” caught these texture problems in their reviews. (Note: Troubled does not = surprised.) I also find it disappointing that the media, upon “discovering” the issue (via official semi-acknowledgement by Bethesda), saw fit to merely regurgitate the company line.

Flame if you wish, but there is simply no way that these issues were not caught in QA. I would be in a vastly more forgiving mood about the poor state of this game upon release if we did not all have to go through the traditional industry song and dance before the issues are fixed. You know what I am talking about…garbage like this…

There isn’t any issue with the textures…this could be a problem with pirated copies not real copies…a few people are having this issue but most are just fine…try this fix that doesn’t really resolve the issue so we can buy more time to get our house in order…

All this, and there will never be an acknowledgement that anyone dropped the ball. Meanwhile, the consumers get to cross their fingers and hope that the issue eventually gets fixed. And please no “Jeeze, the game has only been out two days…give em a break.” Consumers do have a right to voice their displeasure if a product does not perform as demonstrated. Only in the gaming community are consumers so well conditioned to poor quality and customer service that people will fall all over themselves to defend a company’s right to release incomplete, bug riddled, and broken products. I cannot think of another industry where consumers buy products they expect to be broken and take it on faith that the company will fix it after the purchase.

I love games…I love this game, despite the broken parts. Though I only speak for myself, I suspect that much of the anger and displeasure present in these forums would vanish if Bethesda would simply give an honest accounting of what happened, what is happening, and when they hope to have the issue resolved. Unfortunately, what we have received thus far is prevarication and obfuscation. I didn’t write this to be pissy…although I am a bit pissed…I wrote this because I know that Bethesda can deal with this better than they have so far.

Call me a cynic but they wouldn't admit to huge graphical problems before launch. Imagine how pissed off the shareholders would be if half the pre-orders were cancelled as a result...

Lol…It’s not being cynical when it’s true. Sadly, we are all too aware of how these things work. I suppose the only real point here is that gaming industry consumers need to start holding the industry more accountable…as is true of every other consumer based industry…and yes I know that as a customer who preordered the game I am guilty of contributing to the problem…this time.

I would like to give out a warning to people trying to clear their cache, having the disk installed or not.

After clearing my cache the game first loaded twice as slow. Now, it seems it won't load at all. Even refusing to load in any other game.
Cleared cache again done the downloads and they work again. Skyrim however suffers even more from bad texture loading.

I would advise not to take action now and wait until bethesda comes up with a solution.

Also, did anyone else experience same or similar issues?

Yes.

My anolysis concludes that this game is awesome. The rest is hogwash.