Matt Firor says pickpocketing is not in ESO : Othor Games

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:54 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jan/28/elder-scrolls-online-interview-matt-firor

Still reading it. Opinions?

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:41 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jan/28/elder-scrolls-online-interview-matt-firor

Still reading it. Opinions?

Nooooooooo!

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:17 am

I'd be pissed if someone stole my gear off of my back

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:42 pm

You can't even pickpocket NPCs?

Firor looks like he wants to pickpocket the photographer...

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:05 pm

why the hell can't we at least pickpocket NPC's?

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:23 pm

Damn, he mentioned Adventure zones again! Have we had any definitive answer as to what those are?

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:24 am

I doubt it, so they said about horses before Skyrim... that they may not be included,,,this is too much a deal for stealth characters to just dump it.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:13 pm

For the record (having just finished reading it), he never actually says it's out. He just says it'd be hard to do.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:09 pm

No ways! I need pickpocket, it's my second nature in TES :hehe:

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:51 am

Pick-pocketing other players is a bad idea. Pick-pocketing NPCs is ok

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:29 am

Pick-pocketing other players is a bad idea. Pick-pocketing NPCs is ok

I think his point was what would happen if you get caught? That likely means you cannot fight NPC's and that there is no jail. Implementing pickpockting would need all these systems in place first.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:33 pm

If they removing being able to pick pocket NPCs then this isnt a TES game.

If they remove anything from TES single player games, then it isnt a TES game.

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:27 am

If they removing being able to pick pocket NPCs then this isnt a TES game.

If they remove anything from TES single player games, then it isnt a TES game.

That is a highly unrealistic viewpoint.

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:26 am

"It leads into design questions that we're unsure about..."

That says to me, it's not in...yet. It's statements like this that re very...political. They don't come out right and confirm anything. At the same time, they don't rule it out either.

Why is he addressing the Pickpocket issue to your friends? I mean, why can't it be handled like attacking within the factions? Just allow it in the PvP area.

However, this whole "stealing the clothes of someone's back" thing is utterly ridiculous to begin with....IMO.

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:57 am

If they removing being able to pick pocket NPCs then this isnt a TES game.

If they remove anything from TES single player games, then it isnt a TES game.

The "I demand Skyrim Online" attitude always makes me laugh. It has to be different. It's an MMO, not a single-player game. People really need to make peace with this, you're guaranteeing your disappointment if you don't.

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:33 am

I can see why pickpocketing would be problematic. I mean, if you could pickpocket NPCs, what fiction could reasonably explain why you can't do the same to player characters? There's no easy answer.

However, it makes me wonder about the in-game status of thieves and rogues. I'm hoping they won't simply become burst damage or skirmish DPS, like they are in almost every MMO out there. I'd like sneaky types to have some interesting utility, like they do in DDO or DCUO.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:38 pm

I think his point was what would happen if you get caught? That likely means you cannot fight NPC's and that there is no jail. Implementing pickpockting would need all these systems in place first.

So under absolutely no circumstance are you allowed to be a bad guy? Unless you roleplay yourself being on the "wrong" side, of course. All those ordinators are just there to look pretty?

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:48 am

I agree that pickpocketing other players would be a bad idea. Unless you got junk that the player wasn't carrying anyway. Although what would be the point if I can't depants him?

NPC's on the other hand, should be fair game.

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:25 am

I agree that pickpocketing other players would be a bad idea. Unless you got junk that the player wasn't carrying anyway. Although what would be the point if I can't depants him?

NPC's on the other hand, should be fair game.

I'd like to be able to pickpocket npcs too (not other players). They said we could steal from npc houses etc, shouldn't pickpocketing them be doable as well?

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:47 am

Where do you draw the line though? Should you be allowed to kill NPCs? And what happens if they need to use that axe/soul gem you just took as part of a quest?

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:49 am

It's an MMO, not a single-player game.

There are some that keep saying that, and while you are correct in that is is an MMO, I think people will be surprised how many solo player come into the game.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:18 pm

Where do you draw the line though? Should you be allowed to kill NPCs? And what happens if they need to use that axe/soul gem you just took as part of a quest?

Draw the line at killing npcs of course. Pickpocketing from npcs only causes random and trivial items to be spawned into your bag (use an RNG to generate something - WoW managed pickpocketing btw), while killing them might screw stuff up.

» Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:18 am

The "I demand Skyrim Online" attitude always makes me laugh. It has to be different. It's an MMO, not a single-player game. People really need to make peace with this, you're guaranteeing your disappointment if you don't.

Oh right, so basically people just want a WoW clone and not a TES game. Yes I demand the game to be like Morrowind / Oblivion / Skyrim, and not like WoW, otherwise it isnt an Elder Scrolls game.

TESO is a successor to the most successful single player RPG franchise, dont forget that, Most of the fans for this game are going to be single player, not multi player fans.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:25 pm

So under absolutely no circumstance are you allowed to be a bad guy? Unless you roleplay yourself being on the "wrong" side, of course. All those ordinators are just there to look pretty?

I wouldn't see it exactly like that, the quests probably have all sorts of options to be evil, but fighting a random npc in the middle of town is probably a no-no because it would cause too much confusion.

» Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:23 pm

Lol, i said this would be the case.