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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:49 am

So after seeing these mods on the spotlight and build your house and so many more things I am thinking about getting a gaming Laptop. My questions are, can I hook it up to my 40" TV and can I transfer my gamesaves over to it from Xbox. The most important question would be what gaming Laptop I should buy. I heard ASUS were good but I don't know much else.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:11 pm

First of all, why are getting a laptop? mobilty? space?

And to answer your first question

Yes, just use a simple HDMI cable then configure your pc/laptop to use your tv as the display and your good to go.

and about the saves, yes its possible you can transfer your save via usb and by using a program called modio.

can't post links yet, but theres a couple of tutorials on youtube and other gaming sites.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:03 am

Getting a Laptop because it's small, I could buy a desktop but they are much more expensive.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:18 am

So after seeing these mods on the spotlight and build your house and so many more things I am thinking about getting a gaming Laptop. My questions are, can I hook it up to my 40" TV and can I transfer my gamesaves over to it from Xbox. The most important question would be what gaming Laptop I should buy. I heard ASUS were good but I don't know much else.
If you are just going to hook it up to a 40" television, and aren't limited in space because you obviously have room for a 40" television, then you're simply an idiot to get a gaming laptop which has to be replaced annually because you cannot upgrade a laptop's parts besides RAM. So, please, look into either a desktop PC from Dell or somebody (cheaper than a gaming laptop) or build your own gaming desktop (cheaper than buying a desktop in a store).
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:17 pm

Getting a Laptop because it's small, I could buy a desktop but they are much more expensive.
No! Desktops are cheaper. A gaming laptop is going to cost you at least a thousand dollars, if not more. You can get a much better specification for the same price, if not cheaper, in a desktop.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:29 am

Gaming laptops are just as expensive and to make things worse, they can't be upgraded.

If space is not a problem, you should get a desktop (I mean build your own PC, not buy it).
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:50 pm

So after seeing these mods on the spotlight and build your house and so many more things I am thinking about getting a gaming Laptop. My questions are, can I hook it up to my 40" TV and can I transfer my gamesaves over to it from Xbox. The most important question would be what gaming Laptop I should buy. I heard ASUS were good but I don't know much else.

Depending on how much money you are prepared to spend I would recommend Lenovo Y580. Good video card and specs especially for that price.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:45 pm

As the posters above me said,

If you have a 40" tv then surely you have room for a pc,

And if space is still an issue then build a m-atx gaming rig, get a decent m-atx board and invest on your gpu.

And considering the prices of gaming laptops today, you're far better off getting a desktop.
A thousand bucks or less(don't know the prices there), will get you a mid level gaming pc.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:00 pm

Laptops are much more expensive than desktops.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:00 am

I game on a laptop, and it's true. They are insanely expensive if you are going for something above Intel HD Graphics and the like. I can play Skyrim fine with my Acer Aspire 5733Z. I don't have the room for a desktop yet. Still in the process of cleaning my room out. I have so much stuff on my desk, for one. No room for a tower yet. No room for the monitor.

If you feel laptops are what are best for you, buy one instead. I actually prefer gaming on a laptop because the key layout is what I'm used to. I can use the arrow keys with no problem, for one.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:31 pm

Of if you are an expat and travel a lot for work like me, then a laptop is a good idea. If not then buy a desktop, they will last you longer then gaming laptops as other then memory you can hardly upgrade it.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:56 pm

Of if you are an expat and travel a lot for work like me, then a laptop is a good idea. If not then buy a desktop, they will last you longer then gaming laptops as other then memory you can hardly upgrade it.
Desktops are also cheaper to upgrade and can be upgraded in more amounts that just RAM sticks. In fact, that is why I plan to get a desktop. It is a better long term investment for me. I play a lot of games that are graphics intensive and tend to mess around with my TES games. My gaming interests have gotten more expensive, which means I sort of need a desktop. I can get a good one for under 600 bucks and when the time comes for needing parts upgraded, I can do that.

Of course, some will consider a gaming laptop the better investment. I like my laptop because it allows me to move around and still use it. The problem is that it also is not meant for my needs. I use mine almost all the time. I am better off with a desktop.

I just hope the whole set up doesn't make my room burst into flames. I already am at the point where I have to have a third power strip and might even have to plug a power strip into a power strip. I don't think that is close to a bright idea, though... I might end up with four. I have so many electronics used daily that I'm a bit disturbed.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:55 am

Most laptops use proprietary parts, meaning if something breaks, you have to get it fixed by the manufacturer - which is a lot more expensive than a part for a desk top.

A long time ago (over a decade) I puchased a laptop and eventually wanted to upgrade the RAM. First, because of limited space, the amount of RAM I could put into the laptop was very little, and second, I had to purchase it from Dell - and it was expensive.

Here's what I do now: I have a network at home, 3 desktop computers, router, modem for DSL, printer, and a laptop and another desktop that can be connected to the network. Every 4-5 years, I get new computers to keep pace with the newer CPUs and GPUs.

I last did this two years ago, and started by sending an e-mail to several local computer stores that advertised that they sold and repaired computers. I asked them if they could, and were willing, to build a computer to my specifications. From the answers, or lack thereof, I selected the company that sounded/looked best, and haven't regretted my decision yet.

The best thing about going local, they're close by if something goes wrong, which it can. In my case, my computer is turned on 17 hours per day, and I actively play on-line games about half that time. So, heavy usage - and that can create problems over time. Also, there may be times that you have to send your laptop/desktop back to the company your purchased it from to repair it. A local purchase cuts that time considerably (and expenses, too).

If you decide to go desktop, my most recent computer magazine's hardware section recommends the Intel i5 37xx CPU. There are two names tossed around Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, I think. Get the i5 but the newer version - it rocks better than the old i7 CPU. Video card probably the latest NVIDIA, minimum of 8 GB RAM.

Good luck.

PS: If you're not that much into computers, find a friend to help you out with the selection process.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:48 am

Desktops are also cheaper to upgrade and can be upgraded in more amounts that just RAM sticks. In fact, that is why I plan to get a desktop. It is a better long term investment for me. I play a lot of games that are graphics intensive and tend to mess around with my TES games. My gaming interests have gotten more expensive, which means I sort of need a desktop. I can get a good one for under 600 bucks and when the time comes for needing parts upgraded, I can do that.

Of course, some will consider a gaming laptop the better investment. I like my laptop because it allows me to move around and still use it. The problem is that it also is not meant for my needs. I use mine almost all the time. I am better off with a desktop.

I just hope the whole set up doesn't make my room burst into flames. I already am at the point where I have to have a third power strip and might even have to plug a power strip into a power strip. I don't think that is close to a bright idea, though... I might end up with four. I have so many electronics used daily that I'm a bit disturbed.

I know that gaming laptops are hard to upgrade other then upgrading memory, it does not mean that it is the ONLY thing you can upgrade, but usually laptops allow for ram increase without taking the entire laptop apart.
I completely agree with you that a desktop is cheaper to upgrade as laptop specific hardware (other then memory) is harder to come by and to replace the current laptops hardware with.
The OP should only consider a laptop (for gaming) if he often relocates or something.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:24 am

If you really want to use mods, especially the texture mods, then go for a desktop with a decent GPU, laptops will never be great for gaming.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:55 pm

Most laptops use proprietary parts, meaning if something breaks, you have to get it fixed by the manufacturer - which is a lot more expensive than a part for a desk top.

A long time ago (over a decade) I puchased a laptop and eventually wanted to upgrade the RAM. First, because of limited space, the amount of RAM I could put into the laptop was very little, and second, I had to purchase it from Dell - and it was expensive.

Here's what I do now: I have a network at home, 3 desktop computers, router, modem for DSL, printer, and a laptop and another desktop that can be connected to the network. Every 4-5 years, I get new computers to keep pace with the newer CPUs and GPUs.

I last did this two years ago, and started by sending an e-mail to several local computer stores that advertised that they sold and repaired computers. I asked them if they could, and were willing, to build a computer to my specifications. From the answers, or lack thereof, I selected the company that sounded/looked best, and haven't regretted my decision yet.

The best thing about going local, they're close by if something goes wrong, which it can. In my case, my computer is turned on 17 hours per day, and I actively play on-line games about half that time. So, heavy usage - and that can create problems over time. Also, there may be times that you have to send your laptop/desktop back to the company your purchased it from to repair it. A local purchase cuts that time considerably (and expenses, too).

If you decide to go desktop, my most recent computer magazine's hardware section recommends the Intel i5 37xx CPU. There are two names tossed around Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, I think. Get the i5 but the newer version - it rocks better than the old i7 CPU. Video card probably the latest NVIDIA, minimum of 8 GB RAM.

Good luck.

PS: If you're not that much into computers, find a friend to help you out with the selection process.



4 GB is enough for any gaming, anything above (unless you are going to do other things then gaming) will be idle gimmick. Especially when you use the console of online gaming and the PC for singleplayer games.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:56 am

Try to find something with Nvidia 650m or AMD 7750m (or better), 1920x1080 display, 6-8GB RAM and (if it fits within your budget) ideally Ivy Bridge quad core mobile CPU. If you keep an eye out for sales, you will find some laptops with these specs or better for under $1000. That will run most games at 1080p for the next few years.

And if you can afford an SSD or hybrid drive that will greatly improve loading times (especially if you die and reload frequently) and bootup/shutdown times. Might also improve your frame rate a bit when using high res textures or texture mods.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:15 am

Try to find something with Nvidia 650m or AMD 7750m (or better), 1920x1080 display, 6-8GB RAM and (if it fits within your budget) ideally Ivy Bridge quad core mobile CPU. If you keep an eye out for sales, you will find some laptops with these specs or better for under $1000. That will run most games at 1080p for the next few years.

And if you can afford an SSD or hybrid drive that will greatly improve loading times (especially if you die and reload frequently) and bootup/shutdown times. Might also improve your frame rate a bit when using high res textures or texture mods.

Why 6-8GB RAM? Buying a desktop for games that are developed to run on windows 7 - 32 bit will not perform better with increased RAM as it maxes out below 4GB. Hence getting over 4GB for current games would be pointless. The bottleneck is always at the graphics card, not at the RAM usage, not even metro 2033 uses a lot of ram (under 3GB) when maxed out.
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Post » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:53 am

Why 6-8GB RAM? Buying a desktop for games that are developed to run on windows 7 - 32 bit will not perform better with increased RAM as it maxes out below 4GB. Hence getting over 4GB for current games would be pointless.

Games tend to use up to around 3GB or so, then you have Windows and various processes running in the background, so it's good to have a bit of headroom. Plus the OP may want to use 64-bit apps in the future, etc. RAM is very cheap these days, it's less than $40 for 8GB DDR3 laptop memory.
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Post » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:30 pm

Games tend to use up to around 3GB or so, then you have Windows and various processes running in the background, so it's good to have a bit of headroom. Plus the OP may want to use 64-bit apps in the future, etc. RAM is very cheap these days, it's less than $40 for 8GB DDR3 laptop memory.

Sure it is cheap, but for Skyrim he won't need over 4GB, and he can always upgrade later when next gen games are coming out that will require more RAM.
But you are right in case he tends to build his own desktop why not purchase 12-16GB memory, and most importantly a very good motherboard+graphics card combination.

Even though the bottle neck will not be at the RAM, it isn't costly.
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