NPC's are occasionally turning invisible when I lose sight o : IV

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:42 pm

Very occasionally I'm seeing NPC's turning completely invisible after I lose sight of them then, after a bit of moving around/fighting, look towards them again. The invisibility is so total that I can't even highlight them in the console, though If I can find them the context "use" icon appears normally and If I interact with them with said "use" key they instantly reappear.

I've seen this most with Tamriel Travellars merchants (who are easy to find because of their following pets) but also once with a Thug Leader type... so far that's it.

I do not have any missing meshes or badly installed textures... here are 2 pictures showing the issue: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1576/invisiblerelian.jpg and http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4075/visiblerelian.jpg taken seconds apart. If I save and reload while there is and invisible NPC, they reappear, but AFAIK this is not a vanilla bug.

Any ideas?

Using OSR, FastExit 2, ElysUncapper with Win7 64 all updated, e8400 @3GHz, 4GB ram, gtx460 1GB with latest drivers, and the 4 GB patch on Oblivion.exe. Mod list:

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Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
09 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
0A Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
0B Progress.esm [Version 2.2]
0C HorseCombatMaster.esm
0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5]
0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2]
10 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
12 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
13 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
14 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
15 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3]
16 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
17 Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
18 MIS Low Wind.esp
19 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
1A WindowLightingSystem.esp
++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]
1B DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
1C YetAnotherHotkeyMod.esp
1D DLCHorseArmor.esp
1E DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1F DLCOrrery.esp
20 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
21 DLCVileLair.esp
22 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
23 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
24 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
25 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
26 Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
27 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
28 Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp
29 Thieves Arsenal.esp
++ Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
2A DLCThievesDen.esp
2B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
2C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2D Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
2E Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
2F Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
30 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
31 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
32 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
33 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
34 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
** OMOBS.esp [Version 2.0]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
37 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
38 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c]
3F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
40 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
** Fransfemale.esp
41 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp [Version 1.2]
42 Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.73]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
43 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]
44 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
** ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
45 Gift of Kynareth.esp
46 TheForgottenShields.esp
47 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
48 Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp
49 WOTFH_1.3.esp
4A DLCFrostcrag.esp
4B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
4C Knights.esp
4D Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
4E Mighty Umbra.esp
4F Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
50 MannimarcoRevisited.esp
51 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
52 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
53 Lakeview2.esp
54 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
55 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
56 xulTheHeath.esp
57 MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
58 XulEntiusGorge.esp
59 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
5A xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
5B xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
5C xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
5D xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3]
5E xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]
5F xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
60 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
61 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
62 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
63 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
64 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3]
65 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
66 xulPantherRiver.esp
67 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
68 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
69 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]
6A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
6B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
6C GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
6D DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
6E xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
6F xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
70 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]
71 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
72 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12]
73 OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp [Version 1.1]
74 MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.0]
75 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0]
76 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
77 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
78 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
79 Bag of Holding.esp [Version 1.5.0]
7A Automagic Bags.esp [Version 4.03]
7B EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
7C ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 2.0]
7D ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
7E ProgressRBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
7F ProgressRacial.esp
80 ProgressArmorer.esp [Version 1.0]
81 All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]
++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]
82 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
83 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
84 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
85 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]
86 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]
87 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]
++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.7.7]
88 OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp
89 Deadlier Sneaking [Unofficial Lesser] 1.0.esp [Version 1.0]
8A attack and hide harder v2.1.esp
8B Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
8C DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
8D bgBalancingVanillaGMSTArmorPenalty.esp [Version 9.0UV-U]
8E bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
8F bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 1.0]
90 Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.esp
** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp [Version 0.86]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3]
91 Life Detected - OMOD.esp
92 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:19 pm

Do you have a "No NPC blood" tweak in the bashed patch?

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:46 am

No blood tweaks in the patch. Interesting though... usually when a NPC gets bloody they die before long. I'll keep an eye on that... otherwise blood is showing up normally on npc's and creatures.