nstead of 3 factions... : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:52 pm

How about have it into 9 factions. Cyrodiil (Or full of petty kingdoms.) Morrowind, Skyrim, Kitty land, Black marsh, The Aldmeri Dominion, High rock, Hammerfell, and Orsinium? It would be more lore friendly and make the PVP parts of the game more interesting. For example: The Ebonheart pack not only makes little sense, but was not even mention in the the SP ES games. Same goes for the Daggerfall covenant.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:44 pm

it would make it more simple to kill those ash-svckers... :whistling:

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:46 pm

it would make it more simple to kill those ash-svckers... :whistling:

true, but only Chuck Norris can do such thing with the Tribunal in power.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:34 pm

kitty land ftw

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:24 pm

It'd be nicer if there were no factions. I don't want my race to decide anything about my allegiances.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:01 pm

kitty land ftw

That's where my skooma dealer was from... :ermm:

It'd be nicer if there were no factions. I don't want my race to decide anything about my allegiances.

Maybe not have them as racial factions. (except for the Dunmer and Dominion for lore reasons.) But atleast have them make more sense. For Talos sake! While I'm not sure, I heard that the Daggerfall Covenant is a Democracy! if that's true then how come a "Democracy" in Tamriel was never mentioned before!?

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:44 am

"Unlikely alliances will be forged"

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:38 am

How about articifial factions created by player interaction?

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:39 am

true, but only Chuck Norris can do such thing with the Tribunal in power.

maybe i plan on asking for chuck norris's help :chaos:

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:37 pm

"Unlikely alliances will be forged"

Because the Argonians, now that the empire is weak, suddenly become interested in politics and feel like taking over Tamriel. But they realise they cant do it alone, so they turn to their nemesis who had their brothers working in the Saltricefields for centuries. But since player population has to be evenly distributed among the teams, they also have to gang up with the dunmers rivals, the Nords.
Why not?! The Bretons got down with the Orismer, too finally...

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:29 pm

true, but only Chuck Norris can do such thing with the Tribunal in power.

Pssh. Chuck Norris can roundhouse kick Vivec all he likes, he's not going to get anywhere.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:45 pm

Because the Argonians, now that the empire is weak, suddenly become interested in politics and feel like taking over Tamriel. But they realise they cant do it alone, so they turn to their nemesis who had their brothers working in the Saltricefields for centuries. But since player population has to be evenly distributed among the teams, they also have to gang up with the dunmers rivals, the Nords.
Why not?! The Bretons got down with the Orismer, too finally...

I don't really care if you don't like the idea.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:20 pm

lore must be preserved AT ALL COST

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:37 pm

I do prefer a smaller number of factions than 9. I will tell you why whether you like it or not.

Open world encounters in my humble opinion are made better when you consistently run across people you know are on your side. With three factions you have a 1/3 chance of a randomly encounter with a PC being friendly. If there were 9 faction or there was player created factions I think it would feel like you are always surrounded by hostiles. 1/3 is a nice ratio for allies.

If the ratio was too high people have no esprit de corps because their faction is too big to give any meaningful identity.

If the ratio is too small the player feel isolated and random help is rare.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:46 pm

I do prefer a smaller number of factions than 9. I will tell you why whether you like it or not.

Open world encounters in my humble opinion are made better when you consistently run across people you know are on your side. With three factions you have a 1/3 chance of a randomly encounter with a PC being friendly. If there were 9 faction or there was player created factions I think it would feel like you are always surrounded by hostiles. 1/3 is a nice ratio for allies.

If the ratio was too high people have no esprit de corps because their faction is too big to give any meaningful identity.

If the ratio is too small the player feel isolated and random help is rare.

3 factions is perfect in an MMO. 2 factions and one becomes too strong while the other grows week. If you played DAoC you would have seen that when one faction becomes strong the other two team together to knock them back down. If you add nine or so factions you ate bound to see four or five of them remain forever weak therefore making people quit or change.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:46 am

I'd prefer an EVE Online structure, wide open lands, pre-set areas etc, but allow us to build our own settlements, cities, fortresses, trade-routes, etc. There could be an ore-rich area that a guild has claimed and to be able to gain that ore you'd have to play out a political map, basically. Give and take, push and pull, make the world as you want it. Hell, even undercut your own guild to gain their resources, money, etc. It could've be extremely interesting should they have followed that path.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:42 pm

3 factions is perfect in an MMO. 2 factions and one becomes too strong while the other grows week. If you played DAoC you would have seen that when one faction becomes strong the other two team together to knock them back down. If you add nine or so factions you ate bound to see four or five of them remain forever weak therefore making people quit or change.

Funny. I'm playing an MMO with 100+ player-created factions (though only 10 or so per server have any kind of serious power) since 6+ years, and it works great - Lineage II.

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:07 am

I'd prefer an EVE Online structure, wide open lands, pre-set areas etc, but allow us to build our own settlements, cities, fortresses, trade-routes, etc. There could be an ore-rich area that a guild has claimed and to be able to gain that ore you'd have to play out a political map, basically. Give and take, push and pull, make the world as you want it. Hell, even undercut your own guild to gain their resources, money, etc. It could've be extremely interesting should they have followed that path.

Pure sandbox games aren't very successful, definitely not on a level to pay for development of an AAA high budget game. EVE is a very niche game and your average gamer has no interest in it and if they did, they would just play EVE.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:49 pm

It'd be better if we could choose our own alleigances.

If I play as a Dunmer, I don't want to be stuck only playing with Argonians and Nords. It's unnecessarily restrictive.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:11 pm

It'd be better if we could choose our own alleigances.

If I play as a Dunmer, I don't want to be stuck only playing with Argonians and Nords. It's unnecessarily restrictive.

This, 1000x this. Also the reason why ArenaNet doesn't have a faction restriction in GW2, they know it's beyond stupid.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:08 pm

I don't think factions are necessarily a bad idea, I just think their choices for the factions are stupid and is based on region alone.

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:19 am

This, 1000x this. Also the reason why ArenaNet doesn't have a faction restriction in GW2, they know it's f****** stupid.

Don't get me wrong, with for example WoW, it's okay, because it's just the Alliance and the Horde, and there's plenty of races for each side, so there's some variety (that said, sometimes, me and my Forsaken Warlock want to play with my IRL Alliance friends without having to make a new character).

But when there's only 3 races per faction... c'mon, that's going to get old, fast.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:29 pm

I wouldn't care if human was the only race in an MMORPG. It doesn't matter if there are only three races in a faction. The problem is ultimately what races are in each faction to begin with and whether each race has it's own starter area.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:59 pm

it would make it more simple to kill those ash-svckers... :whistling:

Im also very VERY eager to keep killing Lizard faces :starwars:

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:16 pm

kitty land ftw

It's the huge sand pile where Aldmeri Dominion keeps their pets.