[REL] Oblivion WarCry New Dimension EV # 2 : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:58 am

hi Sculelos.

your
EnglishTextFix.esp , above.
I thought that I did not see this esp in my OWC dowloads, i am at a libary computer now so i cannot check my own files. is this from an
older download of OWC ND ? or is this file something new and thus i need to download it?

I noted that the owc "sea city" mod conflicted, in the Detector, with 'everything" it seems. especially THE LOST SPIRES. I eventually removed the lost spires
as it itself conflcts with so many mods now. I will have to cheack again today or tomorrow if i can now play the sea city mod option.

seems too i can run with Integration, the stranded light too.

be worth a place or two to have runied scenery due to conflicts, just to have all this goodness.

thank you....freestone

Oh yeah Englishtextfix is just a file I made to make attribute names say english, I might add a few more things like translated birthsigns and such if it annoys me too much but I've played enough vanilla Oblivion that I'm not really annoyed by it.

As for seaworld I'm not sure, I'm using all the mods in my mod list without any noticable issues so I don't know.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:50 am

Is it just me or are people just not getting what unleveled means?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:04 am

Oh yeah Englishtextfix is just a file I made to make attribute names say english, I might add a few more things like translated birthsigns and such if it annoys me too much but I've played enough vanilla Oblivion that I'm not really annoyed by it.

As for seaworld I'm not sure, I'm using all the mods in my mod list without any noticable issues so I don't know.

hi Sculelos.

I wonder if the reason why these path grid errors is that the OBMM conflict detector only detects two moving objects that are in the same cell. I found yesterday that this sea world mods adds a LOT of fish let alone sea critters and this sea world is supposed to be nearly the size of the land mass!! so maybe there are no real conflcts, then.

maybe you could upload your fix to tesnexus. I would not mind having that fix, myself.

I made another small discovery, adding a small mustery too.

after putting in not only OWC, i added WAC too, then i tested a new game to see if this thing acually loads! well it did and i got 30 fps all over the jail cell.
then I COC to weye and outdoors i got 15 to 17 to 19 fps. playable.

then I unchecked these two mega-mods and began a new game and my fps in that jail cell was still 30 fps!!
Weye gave me a 24 fps.

so both mods did not hit my system as much as i feared.

BUT!
--what is giving me the 30 fps? not even quarls lowers it that much, in my other game it was about 40.
new OBSE script mods?
????

here is my mod list if anyone wants to see why I have 30 fps in the starting jail cell.
it is 30 fps even if OWC and WAC are not checked.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
? 00 Oblivion.esm

? 01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]

? 02 Windfall.esm

? 03 Jog_X_Mod.esm

? 04 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3]

? 05 Children Of Rourken.esm

? 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

? 07 TamRes.esm

? 08 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm

? 09 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

? 0A TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

? 0B Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]

? 0C NNWAEMaster.esm

? 0D Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5]

? 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

? 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp

? 10 TamRes.esp

? 11 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 12 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3]

? 13 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]

? 14 Echo_ChapelChant.esp

? 15 AmbientTownSounds.esp

? 16 MIS.esp

? 17 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

? 18 Distant Chapel Bells.esp

? 19 IWR-Lights.esp

? 1A IWR-Windows.esp

? 1B IWR-Shutters.esp

? 1C Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp

? 1D Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp [Version 1.1]

? 1E Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

? 1F Books of Console v1.esp

? 20 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

? 21 ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp

? 22 ImprovedSigns.esp

? 23 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]

? 24 ReneersNotesMod.esp

? 25 Update My Statue.esp [Version 1.30]

? 26 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.0.2]

? 27 Oblivion Alive.esp

? 28 Populated Prisons.esp

? 29 PTRoamingNPCs.esp

? 2A FormID Finder4.esp

? 2B kuerteeCleanUp.esp

? 2C Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0]

? 2D PCB.esp

? 2E Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9]

? 2F Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]

? 30 AyleidStatueMap.esp

? 31 BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp

? 32 ShadowbanishMap.esp

? 33 ShowDaedricShrines.esp

? 34 DLCHorseArmor.esp

? 35 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

? 36 DLCOrrery.esp

? 37 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 38 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

? 39 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 3A DLCSpellTomes.esp

? 3B Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

? 3C Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp

? 3D Adonnays Elven Longblades.esp

? 3E Battlespire Books.esp

? 3F Classic Books.esp

? 40 Gazerith's Spell Books V1.0.esp

? 41 That's so Nico v1.1.esp

? 42 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

? 43 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

? 44 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]

? 45 EM_CompInnsleeping.esp [Version 0.9]

? 46 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]

? 47 AdenseEpicDungeon.esp

? 48 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]

? 49 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

? 4A Better Rosethorn Hall.esp

? 4B Better Rosethorn Hall - Cobl Patch.esp

? 4C Bottomless Cavern.esp

? 4D BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.11]

? 4E FalamirTheMerchant.esp

? 4F goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp

? 50 IC Atmospheric Shops Mod.esp

? 51 Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

? 52 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp

? 53 LordKain_Adash_World.esp

? 54 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp

? 55 Nascosto Isles 3.esp

? 56 All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp [Version 2.0]

? 57 NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp [Version 2.2]

? 58 NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp

? 59 NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp

? 5A The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]

? 5B TheElderCouncil.esp

? 5C thievery.esp

? 5D thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]

? 5E VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

? 5F Wayshrines in the University.esp

? 60 Windfall.esp

? 61 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 2.0.6]

? 62 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

? 63 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

? 64 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 65 DLCFrostcrag.esp

? 66 Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]

? 67 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]

? 68 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

? 69 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.2.Non-COBL]

? 6A Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.6]

? 6B Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 6C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 6D xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 6E xulTheHeath.esp

? 6F XulEntiusGorge.esp

? 70 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

? 71 TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

? 72 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

? 73 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 74 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

? 75 Cybiades-Lost Coast patch.esp

? 76 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 77 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]

? 78 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

? 79 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

? 7A xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

? 7B xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

? 7C xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

? 7D LostSwordoftheAyleids-ArriusCreek patch.esp

? 7E xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3]

? 7F goldenarchery-rollinghills fix.esp

? 80 xulPantherRiver.esp

? 81 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 82 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]

? 83 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]

? 84 UL Imperial Isle Adense Epic Dungeon Patch.esp

? 85 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

? 86 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 87 GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

? 88 DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

? 89 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 8A xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 8B xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 8C xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

? 8D bartholm.esp

? 8E Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

? 8F bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]

? 90 Universitum Arcanorum.esp

? 91 Skingrad outer district.esp

? 92 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]

? 93 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 94 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.2]

? 95 Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp

? 96 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 1.0]

? 97 Quest Award Leveling SI.esp

? 98 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

? 99 MidasSpells.esp

? 9A DirenniAlchemyApparatus.esp

? 9B CreeperJones.esp

? 9C 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 3.1]

? 9D bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]

? 9E bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]

? 9F bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]

? A0 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]

? A1 Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

? A2 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.5]

? A3 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.0]

? A4 Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5]

? A5 Better Cities - Skingrad Outer District.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? A6 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5]

? A7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4]

? A8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? A9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? AA Better Cities - Thievery.esp [Version 4.8.0]

? AB Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

? AC Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? AD Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.9.0]

? AE Companion Compatibility.esp

? AF DLCMehrunesRazor Extra.esp

? B0 MI Books.esp

? B1 OblivionHackBooks.esp

? B2 AN Scripts.esp

? B3 Necromancy Books.esp

? B4 Mark And Recall SI - Normal Spells.esp [Version 1.2]

? B5 Knights of the Nine Disinstaller 1_4.esp

? B6 Note to Self.esp

? B7 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

? B8 Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp

? B9 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]

thanks....freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:57 am

ooops!

my 30 fps!

FPS_Management = {
_comment = Basic FPS stuff, switches to slow-motion on low FPS; in the past this has occaisonally produced bugs like the NPCs-dropping-dead issue; the issues are believed to be fixed but if you suspect you are having related problems you can try disabling bAllowSlowMotion which is the main suspect for any problems relating to FPS management
bAllowSlowMotion = 1
MaximumFPS = 35
MinimumFPS = 08

oblivion stutter remover!

I forgot that I had it set for 30 fps.

freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:10 pm

I have uploaded the actual ESP on my House PI Site for ND @ Nexus now.

In this ESP are only the new dialog's and maybe some single Records i have overlooked not translated.

Download here:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/download.php?id=78557

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:59 pm

I have uploaded the actual ESP on my House PI Site for ND @ Nexus now.

In this ESP are only the new dialog's and maybe some single Records i have overlooked not translated.

Download here:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/download.php?id=78557

thank you R3NNW!

I just now did that.

I readhere and there that there are a few places still with german dialogues. yours will help.

and...

*again* I forget, I *must* ALWAYS mute my speakers when downloading from tesnexus!! i could blow them out with that
LOUD advertisemant. I know the ads pay for the site but that volume is so incredibly loud!

probably the OWC will have yet more stuff added to it, as time goes by. but on another forum with google translate, i read some great praises forthis mod, might even call it a Total Conversion, "the best mod ever played" they said, "better than frans, OOO, MMM...other overhauls."

thanks again.....freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:25 am

Thanks R3NWW, Freestone I would upload my ESP fix but I'm almost certain that R3NNW fixed what I fixed so it would be redundant to run both at the same time. I will check and see if my issues are fixed with this latest ESP file.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:46 pm

Cool thanks R3NNW

Only 11 identical to masters - nothing too harsh as previous versions.

Can we have this name set as the name from here on out? OWC - New DimensionEV.esp

This way BOSS does not have to be updated with every version.

[edit] well still I had to rename it to OWC - New Dimension.esp so that the existing patches can still recognize it ... so that is what I recommend.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:40 pm

Just tried out the new esp. Skills and the loading screens are now in english. Birthsigns and shop signs are still in german but no big deal there.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:07 am

Yes, the Signs are German, cause Eddy has them "German" retexturated. But the Description - when you point with the cursor on them - is now in English. Birthsigns and all the rest will I alter in the next Version.
Please post everything that you found, cause this ESP has more than 10 000 Entry's and even in Tecras you can easy overlook something....

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:45 am

Cool thanks R3NNW

Only 11 identical to masters - nothing too harsh as previous versions.

Can we have this name set as the name from here on out? OWC - New DimensionEV.esp

This way BOSS does not have to be updated with every version.

[edit] well still I had to rename it to OWC - New Dimension.esp so that the existing patches can still recognize it ... so that is what I recommend.

hi Psymon

this brings up for me an Interesting question. I had not thought of what you just wrote, having not checked my folders; i went and checked my data folder just now and lo and behold there are
now TWO esps.

the "OWC - newdimension.esp"
and
the "OWC - newdimensionEV.esp"

the "EV" version was added by that new patch 121a.

I see what you meant, now. I removed the older esp and renamed the 121a ev esp to just "OWC - newdimensions.esp".

this is correct, right?

thanks....freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:33 am

Hi

Great news for the updated esp! Keep up the very good work

I have a small problem though:
I play this mod alongside Oblivion XP Leveling, and i recently gained my first level with my new character :celebration:
I slept in a bed, Oblivion xp menu appeared to allow me chose how i want to spend my points, and then after i close that menu, a dialog appear asking me to spend point on attributes again, which i had no choice to do. I know it comes from OWC since it was in german

(happened before i installed your last esp).

So how should i make those 2 mods work together? I need a way to "silence" OWC leveling system, which seems to be partially scripted...

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:30 am

Hi

Great news for the updated esp! Keep up the very good work

I have a small problem though:
I play this mod alongside Oblivion XP Leveling, and i recently gained my first level with my new character :celebration:
I slept in a bed, Oblivion xp menu appeared to allow me chose how i want to spend my points, and then after i close that menu, a dialog appear asking me to spend point on attributes again, which i had no choice to do. I know it comes from OWC since it was in german

(happened before i installed your last esp).

So how should i make those 2 mods work together? I need a way to "silence" OWC leveling system, which seems to be partially scripted...

Use the Oblivion XP ini file to reduce the amount of stat points you get on levelup, and then you can be balanced with the points you get from warcry.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:54 am

Oh yeah simple as that!

Thank you very much

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:24 am

Or stop the OWC leveling Quest through the Console:

stopquest owclevelinsystem

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:59 am

That command does not seem to work as i just tried it myself but the other menu still shows up.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:38 am

Or stop the OWC leveling Quest through the Console:

stopquest owclevelinquest

I just tried and this indeed doesn't work, the quest does not exist.

I tried by typing "stopquest owclevelinquest" and "stopquest owclevelingquest", plus a few other variations along the same theme, by the way.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:19 am

Well, today I Faced up to Tesedit to see more about "conflicts". So I did the "Filter" and there were a lot of red lines. Mostly
path grids and I was surprised, actually, that even with WAC too, a bash patch will work with most of the conflicts and things like one lampost in better cities
does not really count, this mod is worth a few glitchy objects.

but there *was* one seemingly unforgiving conflict, one with

DUNGEONS OF IVELLION!

I dimly recall that only one worldspace mod can be used at one time and low and behold, looks like OWC adds an offworld dungeon and the filter shows both mods use the same worldspace!

so off it goes for this game.

too, Inergration, with its bgmagic and bgrace mods, also must go too, as a given, both sets alter race records.

everything has its price.

freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:02 am

interesting about Ivellon - makes me wonder if it is merged in - any other overlap?

You should be fine with RBP and integration as long as you load bg's mods later - it is a conflict, but with bg loaded later it is the conflict winner.

Not all conflicts are bad - just about all mods that alter the original game are conflcits with the original game but designed to win the conflict and thus change the game.

So where RBP conflcits with this is where it will win and alter what this in turn altered from the original game.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:04 am

I just tried and this indeed doesn't work, the quest does not exist.

I tried by typing "stopquest owclevelinquest" and "stopquest owclevelingquest", plus a few other variations along the same theme, by the way.

Try that: stopquest OWCLevelinSystem, it should work.

/cheers

Lallina

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:45 am

Try that: stopquest OWCLevelinSystem, it should work.

/cheers

Lallina

It worked! Thank you very much

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:24 pm

interesting about Ivellon - makes me wonder if it is merged in - any other overlap?

You should be fine with RBP and integration as long as you load bg's mods later - it is a conflict, but with bg loaded later it is the conflict winner.

Not all conflicts are bad - just about all mods that alter the original game are conflcits with the original game but designed to win the conflict and thus change the game.

So where RBP conflcits with this is where it will win and alter what this in turn altered from the original game.

there is another Dimly recalled statement, probably on another forum, and tesnexus has a forum too, as well as somewheres else, where if there is a mod with a conflicting race record, the English translation is stipped out and even though the other race mod plays ok, the npc text is back to its german version!!

please oh please psymon, or someone, set me straight on this as that series of mods are also supposed to be so good!

thanks...freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:58 pm

Last loaded mod will win the conflcit - read the pinned thread called compatibility and you about the rule of one.

BOSS loads RBP after this so you should be good.

I know of no rumors of other forums. Can't help there.

Nothing says that you have to have this or WAC active when you start a new game. When I create a character I try to really only have the mods loaded that have to be loaded from the beginning. If you load this or WAC or any other overhaul later then just wait out a cell respawn and you should be good.

If the case is that you want to play a race included with this then that too should not be a problem as the custom races should not conflict with RBP.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:48 am

Last loaded mod will win the conflcit - read the pinned thread called compatibility and you about the rule of one.

BOSS loads RBP after this so you should be good.

I know of no rumors of other forums. Can't help there.

Nothing says that you have to have this or WAC active when you start a new game. When I create a character I try to really only have the mods loaded that have to be loaded from the beginning. If you load this or WAC or any other overhaul later then just wait out a cell respawn and you should be good.

If the case is that you want to play a race included with this then that too should not be a problem as the custom races should not conflict with RBP.

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free8082002, on 18 March 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

I use LAME and the Bag of Holding together with OWC-ND. It works fine.
If you want to use the SpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp you need to make a bashed patch because both mods change the leveled lists.
Race Balancing Project should not be compatible because OWC-ND rebalances the races, too.
I didn't test it, but I see no reason why CM Partners should not be compatible.
All quest mods should be compatible.

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Race Balancing Project : I use it. I removed the races that are changed by OWC-ND from RBP and RBP's birthsigns. I also removed all the spells that are changed by LAME and kept only the new ones. Just a personnal choice.... everything works fine.

I asked Newbie, on the forums, just how did he remove the records. I might have a reply soon.

freestone

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:11 am

Well, today I Faced up to Tesedit to see more about "conflicts". So I did the "Filter" and there were a lot of red lines. Mostly
path grids and I was surprised, actually, that even with WAC too, a bash patch will work with most of the conflicts and things like one lampost in better cities
does not really count, this mod is worth a few glitchy objects.

but there *was* one seemingly unforgiving conflict, one with

DUNGEONS OF IVELLION!

I dimly recall that only one worldspace mod can be used at one time and low and behold, looks like OWC adds an offworld dungeon and the filter shows both mods use the same worldspace!

so off it goes for this game.

too, Inergration, with its bgmagic and bgrace mods, also must go too, as a given, both sets alter race records.

everything has its price.

freestone

Yes , ND uses the same Worldpsace as Ivellon => Tamriel :rofl:
I have played the DV from Ivellon and had no problems.