I know it is, but when you think of the state of the world before the Great War, europe was in a major economic downfall, I don't think they'd have the funds for shelters

Yes. I guess i could have better explained that comment. What i meant was a i would like them (Lyon's BoS) to play a more minor role in the game then what they were in Fallout 3 but a large role then the BoS chapter did Fallout NV. The BoS in Fallout NV seemed almost pointless, you could have remove them from the game and there would have been almost no impact aside from Veronica not being in the game.

Maybe they built the shelters before the economic meltdown or maybe a wealthy citizen decided to spend his savings on one, we don't know. My point is that I would love to see more lore about what happened elsewhere in the world because we don't know enough about what happened to the majority of humanity.

Anything involving this picture, I would happily play for months and months.

http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/6/62/Fallout_Online_concept_art.jpg


Also, if Bethesda/Zenimax don't want to do an MMO, they could always introduce a Co-Op version of the game. It just seems like something that would fit the series a little better and would be slightly more believable than a single person saving whatever region they're in.

You mean aside from the completely unique thematic inclusion of 50's Americana? Which the developers of the originals have all pretty much gone on record as saying is essential to the core of the series? Oh. Well other than that, nothing.

Truthfully the only 50's Americana I actually noticed in the series was in Fallout 3, I personally didn't notice much in the originals. To me the most important thing to make Fallout what it is its motto, "war, war never changes". Having a game or a DLC in another country that's done properly would further prove this motto. No matter where you go in this world human's are generally the same in what they want, the only differences are what they are willing to do to get what they want.

I'd like to see how the majority of humanity is coping with being bombed to hell. I do love the setting in the US and if they never go outside of the country I'll still be content, but I would like to see Obsidian's take on the rest of the world.

I think the next fallout should take place on Mars


I mean come on guys, ALIENS!!!!


and we could include the Enclave, NCR, Legion, Bos, and super mutants in space suits

You have to think about it like this also; New York unless compleatly full of radiation, would still attract a huge population because of the fact it would provide shelter and resouces even in rubbles. It would be the first place to be redeveloped and would be hard to represent a wasteland.

Isn't Fallout 4 taking place in San Francisco?

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Yes, here's the official post for it- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092115/

Annnnnd you just described why Bethesda failed at Fallout. But just because it was more subtle in the originals doesn't mean it wasn't there or wasn't that which all else grew from. And personally I'm far less interested in what the most important aspect or thematic choices are to you as I am the original creators of the game.

Which is why pockets of civilization in say, Times Square and Rockefeller, would be the only forms of settlements within NYC. And lets not forget the area around New York, with the Bronx and Queens, also, since the engine would be newer, the map would be larger, NYC could only take up, maybe, a third or a fourth of the map.

Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, Manhattan, etc. are all apart of New York City, they're what make up the city of New York. They're called boroughs. The Bronx and Queens, are not separate from New York City. For them to do all of NYC, it would have to be quite a bigger map, than they have now in Skyrim.

If not maintained wouldn't the metro tunnels cause catastrophic damage by themselves.

I know that there was a 50's Americana style to the originals, it just wasn't in the foreground and to me at least not as essential to making a Fallout as the motto is. I also understand that when it comes to Fallout, the original creators opinions should be the ones that everyone pays attention to. I was simply giving my opinion on Fallout, which is the whole basis of this thread and this side of the forums.

In either case I would really enjoy seeing at least a DLC in another country, just to see what Obsidian could do with it.

Arizona in ex Legion territory. I want to see what happened there

Arizona is Legion territory (at least parts of Arizona), it's not ex-Legion. Where'd you get that from?

That is offically one of the dumbest things I saw on this forum.

WTF dude? Give the Legion a chance! Bethesda might not touch them. If there is anything regarding "ex-legion" territory in the game I'm going to blame you

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I know where you live and I've seen where you sleep. I swear to everything holy that your mothers will cry when they see what I've done to you! -Tommy Boy quote

Sorry, I got off topic I'm kind of afraid to even wish for any part of the game to take place in legion lands. I want it, but I think it would destroy any love I have for the Fallout series. I'm pretty dedicated to the Legion and cannot accept anything bad happening to them. At this point, I don't even want Bethesda to go as far west as Detroit, they would ruin that land too. In my mind, the Legion should be heading East toward the midwest after the loss at Hoover Dam.

And I have a shotgun with 00 buck.

I know, the "ex" part is ridiculous.

I would like to see a Fallout: North (west / midwest). Just think, Custer's last stand(MT), Indian wars, farming / ranching / settlers, miners (gold, sliver, coal, iron range), Jesse James failed robbery in Northfield MN, etc.... then shoot to the modern times, Mount Rushmore, Crazy Horse Monument, Mall of America / Metrodome ruins (MN), over to Green Bay Lambeau Field ruins(WI). Would be epic in my mind. could even pull the story of the evil Canadian armies invading from the North.

but i am biased, lol, as i am from Minnesota.

building a solid working environment from the animal populations(wolves, bears, coyotes, killer mosquitoes, mutated prairie dogs), to the many different types of environments(mountains, great plains, 10,000 lakes, snow / arctic environment, green paradise, etc)... the game could continue the plunge us into unique environments that has already spoiled all of us.

for character development, with the wealth of history, should be easy!

my $.02

I agree unless NYC is GHOUL CITY/State/EMPIRE....no thanks to that cliche. Arizona? maybe going back to them after the next 2 games. The Great Lakes (Detroit/Canada), the Swampy south (LA/Miami) and the PACNW(Portland/Vancouver). Dont forget 50s Americana was HEAVILY exported to other places, watch some Japanese films of the early 50s you will see a heavy American influence from clothes style and cars, we gave the world cram (spam) and movie making styles as well....etc.

The motor city and Canada i would love to hear about what it was like under the US for the Canadians, did they see the US as protectors or conquerors, where their Militia groups that fought against the invaders, how did the french speaking parts take it? Did the French speaker rise up against the English speakers carving out kingdoms? Canada be it Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton/Calgary...etc would be very interesting. Ed/Cal could be an interesting DLC where the two cities have been waring with each other for hundreds of years, since they have oil they might have been able to even use machines at these in the begining. Vancouver is close to the border of the us and close enough to alaska to have actually seen some chinese invasion forces and has a large chinese population too.

I want more Chinese stuff in the next game, i loved those parts in FO3 and Cape Look out.

They need to add something more weird stuff. I loved when in fallout 3 you could run literally into anything. Gary vault was awesome and loved antagonist mechanist stuff. Those things made wandering wasteland more interesting and fun.

Also skill books need to give only one skill point again so we would find more often them in the wastes.