Orsimer, Dunmer stance on the WGC and thalmor : V

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:52 pm

Where and what would there stance be in regard to this and the Thalmor endgame

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:28 pm

The Dunmer hate the Thalmor, the Thalmor hate the Dunmer.

The Dunmer worship Lorkhan, the Thalmor hate that. I wonder if the Dunmer recognize Talos as an aspect of Lorkhan, which is what he is. Aside from that bit, I doubt the Dunmer care much about the WGC.

The Thalmor actually see Dunmer as less than men, since they're so heretical.

» Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:34 am

The Dunmer hate the Thalmor, the Thalmor hate the Dunmer.

The Dunmer worship Lorkhan, the Thalmor hate that. I wonder if the Dunmer recognize Talos as an aspect of Lorkhan, which is what he is. Aside from that bit, I doubt the Dunmer care much about the WGC.

I thought they worshiped the three gods and the house of troubles in what way do they worship Lorkhan.

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:19 pm

Dunmer don't outright worship Lorkhan, but they don't demonized him. They worship the Reclamations (Boethiah, Mephala and Azura). Dunmer embrace the world and the Psijic Endevour. Altmer do not view existence as an opportunity. Osimer are in the same boat as they worship the non-ancestors, not as hated though, I don't think.

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:15 pm

Dunmer don't outright worship Lorkhan, but they don't demonized him.

Sorry, my mistake. But since they embrace creation, isn't that basically worshiping Lorkhan?

Either way, I knew the Thalmor do not like the Dunmer even remotely.

» Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:31 am

Sorry, my mistake. But since they embrace creation, isn't that basically worshiping Lorkhan?

Almost. They won't go around praising Shor (they actually fought his ghost and Wulfharth as I'm sure you know) but they are Lorkhanic people certainly. Boethiah, their "god-ancestor" is pretty much Lorkhans biggest fan.

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:04 pm

The ancestors of the dark elves, the Chimer, were exiled because of their beliefs. They followed the prophet Velothi out of the ancestral elven cities. The Thalmor judge the Dunmer with the same sense of contempt of the eleves who regarded the Chimer as heretics.

» Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:48 am

Almost. They won't go around praising Shor (they actually fought his ghost and Wulfharth as I'm sure you know) but they are Lorkhanic people certainly. Boethiah, their "god-ancestor" is pretty much Lorkhans biggest fan.

Well, you learn something new every day.

...It's kind of sad the only thing I learned today was about TES lore. WELL, so be it.

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:55 pm

The ancestors of the dark elves, the Chimer, were exiled because of their beliefs. They followed the prophet Velothi out of the ancestral elven cities. The Thalmor judge the Dunmer with the same sense of contempt of the eleves who regarded the Chimer as heretics.

Minor note: They weren't exiled, they were lead out by Veloth/Boethiah.

» Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:18 am

The ancestors of the dark elves, the Chimer, were exiled because of their beliefs. They followed the prophet Velothi out of the ancestral elven cities. The Thalmor judge the Dunmer with the same sense of contempt of the eleves who regarded the Chimer as heretics.

the orsimer were once chimer weren't they? So did they follow velothi and worship trinimac or what?

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:25 pm

Expresate summed the the Dunmer stance amicably, though they don't really worship Lorkhan.

If the Thalmor have a stance/agenda against the Orsimer, I don't think it has been revealed. They probably don't view them too highly, but not as badly as the Dunmer. The Orsimer as a whole aren't really a threat to them though.

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:10 pm

the orsimer were once chimer weren't they? So did they follow velothi and worship trinimac or what?

Orsimer were Aldmer who venerated Triminac. Triminac supposedly opposed the Chimer and Boethiah "ate" him.

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:07 pm

Well I wonder who the leader of the orcs is? And there stance, and to MerchantMudcrab thankyou for explaining the Orsimer, so the Aldmer were before the Altmer, Alyeids, Dwemer and Chimer?

» Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:17 am

Well I wonder who the leader of the orcs is? And there stance

No idea who the leader of the Orcs is, besides Malacath. They've had good relations with the Empire usually, and they technically worship a Daedra so id assume they're no friend of the Thalmor. Could make for am excellent DLC, truly..

» Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:21 pm

Dunmer hate Thalmor, Thalmor hate Dunmer

As for the Orcs. I have no clue... The Thalmor probably hate them as well.

But I think the Orcs are too busy Worshiping Deadra Princes. So Unless the Thalmor made a move after them, The orcs would probably try keeping there home from being sacked. Again.