Patch # 2 : Othor Games

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:26 am

It's going to take a hell of a lot more than one half assed console port of a game to get me to switch to nVidia.

I said when it comes time to upgrade I will go to NVIDIA. Its not like I am running down to the shop to buy NVIDIA because of RAGE.

The general experience I have had with ATI since I got a 5850 has been rather poor. There are some bugs in their drivers that I have had since day-1 of my 5850 that despite repeated forum posting, support emails, "Catalyst feedback" forms they refuse to fix.

I have done 3D/OpenGL and CUDA/OpenCL programming professionally on both ATI and NVIDIA hardware and NVIDIA beat them in every category I can think of except price. But when your products are superior to your competition you will of course sell your products at a higher price (just look at price gap between Intel and AMD).

The one thing I do credit AMD for is that they provide good documentation on how their chip sets are wired. Theoretically it is possible for anyone with the technical skill and time to write an alternative driver for AMD cards. NVIDIA keep their chip designs very secret.

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:39 am

bethesda has no time for this, SKYRIM

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:25 pm

bethesda has no time for this, SKYRIM

Bethesda have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this. Rage is an id Software game, it's an entirely different development team. Get your facts right before making accusations, please.

» Tue May 15, 2012 8:10 pm

We will get a patch in a few months when they decide to release DLC and they want our money again.

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:26 pm

Hansenhaus, you upgraded your 4670 with a 560ti and you are happy with it? Of course you are, you're talking about upgrading from a 4-year old videocard to one of the god damned latest on the market! But if you'd have bought a HD6990, you might have been even more satisfied. Try to provide an actual argument next time please. Even if ID f****d things up, or maybe it was a scam between them and Nvidia to make Ati look bad, I don't really care. I've tested more than enough videocards to say I will stay an Ati fan no matter what. Indeed, the drivers seem to have problems, especially since they fusioned with AMD, but from all the tests I've made, Ati still have better performance than an equal Nvidia, not to mention the price difference

» Wed May 16, 2012 12:03 am

Got an HD5700 series and I really had no problem with rage until the latest drivers that made me see BLUE. Wrote AMD support and haven't received a solution or even an reply that the got my support ticket.
I am really hoping the that SKYRIM works properly. I know they are different dev teams but they fall under the bethesda umbrella so my finger are crossed.

Bottom line--my next card will be nvidia regardless of who f'd up---still firmly believe it's ID and Carmack though.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 pm

WHERE IS THE DAMN PATCH#2.. Just becoz of that i havn't played the rest of the game.. :angry:

otherwise i wud have completed the whole game.. in few days.. When is ID releasing the patch.. anyone Knows the ETA!!

ID GUYS are taking too long to release a patch!! ID needs to improve.. btw m in love with BF3 & its new Frost Bite 2 Engine.. its [censored]in amazing! :rock:

ID Tech 5 is also amazzing.. but needs to improve hell lot.. me being a fan of ID.. m counting on it!! and i Hope DOOM 4 will KICK SOME SERIOUS A**SE if they plan on building it on ID Tech 5!!

PATCH # 2 PATCH # 2 PATCH # 2 PATCH # 2 :banghead:

RELEASE IT FAST!! :shakehead:

I think the next game patch is going to be mostly graphics. The main issue with rage not working is the fact that ati drivers don't work.

» Wed May 16, 2012 6:04 am

really no1 is being a dike except id, we know now that they lie. it was said in 2008 when they announced doom4 that they were working on it. but they actually only had one person. they actually said it was a ploy for some resumes
id was working on rage for 6 years. probably with like 3 people and thats why we have to wait so long for everything. because id is too cheap to hire a decent sized staff

Their is over 170 people working at id.

» Tue May 15, 2012 3:04 pm

It's going to take a hell of a lot more than one half assed console port of a game to get me to switch to nVidia.

Then why are you here?

» Wed May 16, 2012 3:52 am

he just say that bc this stupid game have alot of problem with AMD cards, and isnt AMD foult is just this game was bad tested and a terrible port from console, and Nvidia come out wiht a more estable patch that AMD at the momment, that all. but agean isnt AMD foult is just ID guys give a [censored] about fixing this game at the momment.... good for us BF3 is out and soon SKYRIN will be out too so [censored] RAGE

How is it ids fault. The game works perfect with 360, ps3, and Nvidia. Not to mention ATI also had problems with other open gl games like quake wars. Their drivers kept braking that game.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:08 pm

It's mainly because I see no reason to spend more money on something that in no way outshines what I have. My cards have done me no wrong. And granted, this game has caused me headaches, but everything before this I have maxed out the settings and enjoyed a smooth game. The only thing nVidia has is PhysX and that is all BS anyway. I don't really care about mist particles enough to buy a video card that makes them look awesome.

Its doing you wrong now. The ati drivers don't work good with open gl games. This should not surprise any one. ATI has a long history of bad drivers.

» Wed May 16, 2012 4:26 am

We will get a patch in a few months when they decide to release DLC and they want our money again.

The game patches will likely be graphics patches. The main thing people need here are ati driver patches.

» Tue May 15, 2012 3:56 pm

Hansenhaus, you upgraded your 4670 with a 560ti and you are happy with it? Of course you are, you're talking about upgrading from a 4-year old videocard to one of the god damned latest on the market! But if you'd have bought a HD6990, you might have been even more satisfied. Try to provide an actual argument next time please. Even if ID f****d things up, or maybe it was a scam between them and Nvidia to make Ati look bad, I don't really care. I've tested more than enough videocards to say I will stay an Ati fan no matter what. Indeed, the drivers seem to have problems, especially since they fusioned with AMD, but from all the tests I've made, Ati still have better performance than an equal Nvidia, not to mention the price difference

Id Nividia consistency theory.

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» Tue May 15, 2012 9:33 pm

really no1 is being a dike except id, we know now that they lie. it was said in 2008 when they announced doom4 that they were working on it. but they actually only had one person. they actually said it was a ploy for some resumes
id was working on rage for 6 years. probably with like 3 people and thats why we have to wait so long for everything. because id is too cheap to hire a decent sized staff

That's the second time you've come out with something about a supposed low number of people working on an id game. Got anything to back that one up?

And oh yeah - read the Mythical Man Month lately? Because you really should.

» Tue May 15, 2012 11:14 pm

I think when I upgrade my GPU from a 5850 I will get NVIDIA.

There drivers are just better, more stable, and best of all you get per-game 3D settings...

I do miss my last NVIDIA card...

i have completed the game now and it was a bit short i thought all the hype for the game would be great what a disappointment :flame:

» Wed May 16, 2012 2:37 am

i have completed the game now and it was a bit short i thought all the hype for the game would be great what a disappointment :flame:

Did you play all the side missions.? It took me 24 hours to complete with side missions. I Also I did not even complete all the races.

» Tue May 15, 2012 4:12 pm

Did you play all the side missions.? It took me 24 hours to complete with side missions. I Also I did not even complete all the races.

yes i did the side missions and the races it took me 30 hours to do it