I am reluctant to speak out most of the time and I hope that a Elder Scrolls will be successful.

but I have concerns.

The Beth team have invested years in creating this wonderful world for us to play in.

the lore is fantastic deep and rewarding

The levelling system of improving skills as you use them with limitied UI to plough through is a revelation

I love the attempts by many to live in the world without fighting.

The combat whilst occasionly clumbsy is a whirlwind of real time action.


a construction set that allows the community to creat ewith the team to improve and add to Beths Vision

The worlds are open if you want to be stupid enough to tackle a giant when you are level 1 you can Beth gave

us that freedom

These are the things that have made Beth great.

It is because they dare to be different from the rest of the pack.

When I real the features of the Elder Scrolls MMO wha is there that makes it stand out and makes it beautiful?

I respect the creators of the MMO as Dark age of Camelot was a good game and they are tremendously

skilled group.

but the initial article about the MMO makes it seem like a WOW clone and following the rest of the crowd when

Beth should be leading the way.

If there is to be an Elder scrolls MMO it should rely on its own strengths and what made their games a top

seller. ot recycling the tired ideas of a worn out genre.

Please Beth. If you are going to do a MMO please do it right.

Except from what I read Bethesda isn't making this.

Which means we should see no disruptions to our Single Player TES experience.

Except the fact that their parent company and primary investor has no doubt invested a fair share of money into this derp project, and so WHEN TES:Online fails miserably, there is a reasonable chance that in today's rough economy, they may choose to scrap the series altogether, citing lack of fan interest or whatever nonsense they choose to come up with.

The business question is, what is the order winner. What is going to make me want to play this, rather than another MMO in the same competitive space.

I see many order qualifiers, (quests, a 3D graphics system, dialogue, weapons, things you would expect). But I don't see any order winners. I need to know what differentiates this product from the others, aside from being set in Tamriel.

That would be a very lame excuse, we all know and everybody and their grandmother at Zenimax knows that if the MMO fails, it has nothing to do with TES as a single player franchise. A boatload of TES fans are not quite excited about this MMO, will not buy it but will buy all the future installments in the TES single player series. No sane businessman would scrap the whole franchise for a failed or semi-failed online affair.

I really hope and doubt this is not the case. I could care less about the mmo. I don't plan to touch it. But if it affect my single TES experience I will be very sad.

This I cant help but feel is just doomsayer straw grasping.

I think they are hoping the TES in the title and lore will do that for you.

Also, the world is going to end in December.

Seriously, this type of naysaying is completely baseless. You're just making stuff up at this point.

And the world is filled with colorful rainbows and ponies and candy grows on the side of the street. The economy is not a [censored]hole, and corporate greed doesn't rule the world.

Feel free to keep living your fantasy.

Something is wrong in this world, why a software house that got a game like this should make a themepark like wow?
No real action combat? why? latency? tera online what should be? world of lag online? guys i know you have balls to make a S A N D B O X that could lead the way for the next generation of MMO, please don't ruin a name like elderscrolmake another crap thing like wow, use you brain like you did to make all the past TES, improve them, we know it's impossible to make an mmo with skyrim graphics, graphics isn't that important, but artstyle is, TES shouldn't be made with cartoony graphics, you got fans all over the world "crying" becouse they wanted a new kind of mmorpg and not the wow clone, don't thing even for a second that if you make a wow clone it will be a succes, look rift, look aion, look all others crappy themeparks, peoples are tired of it, peoples are tired to make istances and grind for epix or honor all over the time,
Use you head, you ideas, give us the emotion of a good sandbox, nobody wants another themepark, think on it.

The world isn't a complete nightmare either where everything fails because of one single misstep. The point still stands that if TES:O fails It does not stand to reason that it will bring down the single player franchise that its based off of. Any business man would have enough sense to understand that a failed online game doesn't speak to the majorly successful single player game.


or what bono said.

Guys, we are pass the point of having any important impact on the game when the game is due to be out in 2013 and has been in work for over 5 years.

(By the way, sandbox with loads of tree's in it would crash your computer because all previous sandbox MMO look pretty much desert like, flat and dull and boring.)

So much this.

I'm honestly baffled by the rediculous over exaggerated immature irrational posts/opinions I've read on here today.

Think I may slip out the door til nearer release, go hang at Skyrim General. I can't take all this senseless pvssyr lol.

(however there are some great posts with true criticism and concern, it's just a shame they count for maybe 2% of the posts lol).

Because they scraqed single-player Final Fantasy games when Final Fantasy XIV tanked, right?

The OP wasn't talking about how this would affect the series financially. He was talking about how it would affect the series' credibility, and more importantly about what this game should be (a work of creativity and art backed with AAA funding and talent) as opposed to what it is (a work designed to cater to a very specific, and dying, brand of MMO that has dominated AAA MMO titles since WoW). Forget whether or not it means an end to the series. It's just hugely disappointing. Video games can be a powerful artistic medium, and this game is likely not going to do anything significant for the genre, the Elder Scrolls, or the community. And this is the Elder Scrolls. I don't think a title in this series should ever settle for such blatant mediocrity.

Fairly certain that even after Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy as a whole still has lots of credibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyqUpS9zZAk

this video drops Bethesda softworks as first name...

<sup>Thannk you for your comments.
I want Beth to make an awesome MMO that I want to play.
Beth spent a lot of time building a community of people a large customer base (look at the skyrim sales!)
with a fantastic system (look at the awards for Skyrim)
For Zenimax to ignore the features that made this a successful series seems a poor business decision.

Beth are immensley talented and could add a lot to the MMO Genre. but every recent review for MMO's I see is basically a World of Warcraft clone.
World of warcraft has presently declining users as here is even there a feeling of been there, done it. So why are gamesas appearing to go there again and do it again?

Because certain business assumptions hae been made.

these are:
to make a MMO costs X
World of warcraft is a proven concept which earnt Y
Y is a lot more than X so even if we only make Z it will still be a profit.
Top make an innovative MMO costs A
A will be more than X this is Bad.
There is risk involved as it is a new concept.
lets not do it.

This however doesn't take into accout a number of factors.
World of Warcraft was a success becasue it was new and innovative.
The economy at the time of its release was far different from the one now.
There were no expectations on the company with regards a role playing game as hey were known at the time as a RTS developed primarily.
There were no expectations as to how it would play gameplay wise.
Beth are in a position where if they release a game that does not exceed the expectations of the customers it will be deemed a failure.
a failure= low review scores.
low review scores means ot drawing in the new and undecided customers.

I hope that my expectations are released. but at the very least the marketing department have made a mis-step by not making sure that the commuities concerns were addressed or at least mitigated.</sup>