im sorry but this is stupid. Consoles do not ruin PC gaming. Lazy developers do. there are PLENTY of multiplats that look WAY better play WAY better on PC than on console. Consoles dont do anything, who ever uses that excuse is technologically stupid. I could easily say people who cant afford $700+ PCs ruin PC gaming. just because they are inferior does not justify the means of making a certain version (PC) bad.


WRONG...you know why some pc game (like crysis 2 for example) have very blurry textures up close. While other Non-ported games (like crysis 1) have crystal clear textures!

Yours kids consoles are boggin us down. HOLDING US BACK FROM OUR NEXT GENERATION OF GAMING! While we sit and wait for you consoles to catch up....

It's up to you if you want to make great games and great sales. You have to make great games before you can make great sales. And once you have achieved great games, why not go for great sales on easy mode and sell your name instead? If you want to make great games later, maybe in another dev company, when you squeezed your companys name dry first. That's how it goes. Kids or their consoles have nothing to do with it.

goodness, this thread is still going
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lol two days an i come back an this....hhhh the console children will never understand...

When would PC gamers realise that they are ruining PC games and not the consoles.

please refer to the last 6 or 7 pages of debate were we clearly settled that topic. logically and rationally. your consoles are killin us it terms of the gameplay experiance

What you and the rest of folks fail to realise is that the attitude of PC gamers are the detriment of PC gaming. Its easy to overlook in the midst of all the consistent and borderline childish whining. What makes it even worse is the idea that PC gamers are some how smarter or better than folks who play console games. Some PC gamers (the loud ones especially) are way to caught up in the specs than the execution to the point that every game that is released is blasted for a lot of trivial things that really don't make the game experience better. This attitude coupled with the boastful pirates who are so elite are the reason that developers don't give a s*** about PC gaming. Why waste time on PC games when they would just whine in the end? Why waste time on PC games when the ones who are so smart and elite are the first to pirate? But hey, you all can continue to blame console gaming for the demise of PC gaming. I will just sit on the side lines while you all continue to destroy it.

*Ahem* (yes the pc gamer is back to kill it) Hey guy...maybe you should read before you post a three paragraph which had nothing to do with the topic we were disscussing. YOUR CONSOLES KILL OUR GRAPHICS! thats what we were saying blurry textuers cause were waitng on kids with their console toys to catch. Were waitiing on our next generation while your xboxs and ps3 are stuck in '06.

What you and the rest of folks fail to realise is that the attitude of PC gamers are the detriment of PC gaming. Its easy to overlook in the midst of all the consistent and borderline childish whining. What makes it even worse is the idea that PC gamers are some how smarter or better than folks who play console games. Some PC gamers (the loud ones especially) are way to caught up in the specs than the execution to the point that every game that is released is blasted for a lot of trivial things that really don't make the game experience better. This attitude coupled with the boastful pirates who are so elite are the reason that developers don't give a s*** about PC gaming. Why waste time on PC games when they would just whine in the end? Why waste time on PC games when the ones who are so smart and elite are the first to pirate? But hey, you all can continue to blame console gaming for the demise of PC gaming. I will just sit on the side lines while you all continue to destroy it. [/quote]

Actually, thats a lie. The PC gaming community has a problem with pirating I admit. But the population that does it is far smaller than you make it out to be. Even saying that Consoles have their weaknesses too, for example a recent Hacker has cracked the PS3's hardware. And the Xbox was done along time ago. Are you a PC gamer yourself. I highly doubt it. But being on this forum gives you a little status towards being one. And I have not come across what you're saying regarding PC gamers "attitudes" is obviously a personal opinion and not based on any perspective or fact. Actually of the many PC gamers I know of the attitudes compared to console gamers is smaller than you think, sure you have you're as*holes much like the console does but you're not giving perspective to the other side of things. PS3 owners such as myself are limited by developers being biased towards the Wii or Xbox 360 for example. I don't get to play some of the franchise games I'd like to. But you're honest opinion is prose, biased and therefore I deny your reality and substitute my own. Ya Console fanboy lover you.[/quote]

lol Thanks bro i was gunna destoy him on this too but i aint been on here in two days lol good lookin got my back. lol

Hehe, don't you just love to destroy noobs with biased opinions. 8 days late but better than never

Consoles do nothing but developers, which makes the same game for pc and consoles (x360 and PS3). It's like making the same game for these consoles and the Wii, PSP or the Nintendo DS.

Stop now, this threads done. Was done a long time ago. I forgot that this goes to the front page of the forums if you reply to it. My mistake.

pirates ruins the pc industry.If PC is a strong market no developer is going to ignore pc.

Hehe, don't you just love to destroy noobs with biased opinions. 8 days late but better than never

And you claim that my opinion is wrong about PC gamers elitism. Now that is hilarious.

*Ahem* (yes the pc gamer is back to kill it) Hey guy...maybe you should read before you post a three paragraph which had nothing to do with the topic we were disscussing. YOUR CONSOLES KILL OUR GRAPHICS! thats what we were saying blurry textuers cause were waitng on kids with their console toys to catch. Were waitiing on our next generation while your xboxs and ps3 are stuck in '06.

Where have you guys been for the last ten years or so? The advancement in PC gaming is heavily dependent on console gaming. While PC have the advantage of having newer technologies before consoles, the standardisation of these features are dependent on consoles and the introduction of next generation consoles forces this standardisation. Is it that hard for you and many other to realise that people are in the gaming business to make money. Introducing higher quality effects and shaders with newer technology cost time and money and it is not cost effective when the market share that can utilise these features are the smallest. As King of the Sand mention earlier the catering for the weakest systems would normally hold back games independent of consoles.

@geniusprime

Whats with the superiority complex? I don't care whether you are PC gamer, Console lover or anything. Okay it wasn't a lie but it was a severe exaggeration of the truth you were stating. Not all "l33t" PC enthusiasts torrent everything. I'm certainly not one of them. Seems to me that you're putting all PC gamers in one category, which isn't very good to do in an argument.

I have perspective sir. I've play plenty of both the PS3 and Xbox. I've played consoles for countless hours and PC's aswell and it is my verdict that PC gaming is just that much ahead.

Oh and by the way. PC gamers are better than Console gamers... Fact. But consoles are ruining this for us.

P.S: This might be a little hard to read. Unfortunately for you I don't care. I'm very tired and will continue this debate later.

P.P.S: Perspective is everything.

Stating opinions as fact is nothing short of pure arrogance. And you keep making my point even more valid with you PC elitism. As I have said before your kind is the detriment of PC gaming. The less of you the better off PC gaming would be as a whole.

Everyone just shut up. Consoles do ruin PC gaming. The engines used for both PC games and consoles cause developers not to look into their technology. It's a fact the technology that runs ALL of the console engines is outdated. The API used in them causes game developers to limit how they make games. If console were less popular something better would have been put in place and the PC would have truly been top leader. Actually it makes me wonder if bribery might be an issues to stop PC's from becoming too good. But thats just my suspicions.

DEAL WITH IT!!! CONSOLES DO RUIN PC GAMING!

**** the consoles! =D

Think about it. There are two options:

1) PC gamers have 'perfect' games and consoles have nothing;
2) Both platforms have games and the PC version isn't perfect.

Consoles would suffer far more than PCs would benefit with option #2. Any PC gamer wanting all PC exclusives is a selfish jerk.

Think about it. There are two options:

1) PC gamers have 'perfect' games and consoles have nothing;
2) Both platforms have games and the PC version isn't perfect.

Consoles would suffer far more than PCs would benefit with option #2. Any PC gamer wanting all PC exclusives is a selfish jerk.

So then, how exactly did the IL-2 console port turn out? GRAW was absolutely awesome on PC but a complete waste of time on console. Simbin tried to make a racing game based on its PC games for consoles, RacePro, that also ended in failure.

Some games should be left to their respective mediums. Crysis is one of those.

Think about it. There are two options:

1) PC gamers have 'perfect' games and consoles have nothing;
2) Both platforms have games and the PC version isn't perfect.

Consoles would suffer far more than PCs would benefit with option #2. Any PC gamer wanting all PC exclusives is a selfish jerk.

So then, how exactly did the IL-2 console port turn out? GRAW was absolutely awesome on PC but a complete waste of time on console. Simbin tried to make a racing game based on its PC games for consoles, RacePro, that also ended in failure.

Some games should be left to their respective mediums. Crysis is one of those.
Your opinion on two games =/= a general trend which can be stated as universal fact.

My point still stands, and is incontestable save for flat-out denialism. Consoles do not ruin PC games nearly as much as PC exclusives would ruin console games. Crysis 2 has a few issues for you which you speculatively blame on consoles; if it was a PC exclusive, there would be no console version at all. Of the two possibilities, PC exclusivism is far worse to the side it goes against.

Annoying guy... The post above me... You're choices are only limited to two possibilities, wheres the third, fourth or even fifth option?

Here's a third for you...
All platforms have the game yet they all have their problems and not just the PC which seems to be MUCH more susceptible to issues and lack of DX11. There are more issues that you let on but so be it.

You see, your point isn't incontestable... Those that say they are 'incontestable' are well, annoying, hence the name. Hehe.