I say yes.

Just make it realistic, not peoples heads exploding from a pistol.

I think dismemberment would be unrealistic because of the power suits but I think that more realistic bullet damage to people would be cool

To people yes.
To Nanosuits, no.

Maybe an intense gore factor for the aliens yes, It would make the game-play so chaotic. Yet fun

Don't you think it already has enough blood? Look at the original Crysis.

The original Crysis doesn't have enough blood leaking out of the dead koreans

It was an excess in processes to create for the game, besides the game-play was worthwhile.

Gore can have a surprising impact on gameplay.
Let's take Left for Dead 2 - Australian version for example.
No one bought it basically.
It was heavily censored, you would hit them over the head with a machete, only the hear a light "ting" and then they'd gently fall down and disappear.
It took all the "impact" away from the game.
It was so over-censored that they couldn't even catch on fire - instead, they just danced around and gently fell over.

Really, all they had to do was color the zombies green or something - the gore wasn't the problem, it was the "realistic violence against humans with rabies".

It really does affect the impact of a weapon, and the satisfaction of a kill.
Although this game seems to be after a CoD-like feel, with instant gratification as a reward for just about everything you do. [You killed a guy! Good job! Have some points!]

But it also impacts characters in the "world".
Would you see Nomad (or whatever the guy in the 1st Crysis was called) the same way if you saw his head come off? Or a similar character?
It's a tough decision for any developer to make. In the end they go with what they feel was best.
Crytek said no.

Having seen the Australian version, i know exactly what you're talking about however, i'd like to touch on a few of your points. L4D2 was too violent for Australia because it couldn't be passed under a non-existent R18 rating. It had to be censored heavily in order to comply with Australia's highest rating; MA15+.

L4D2's gore over the original was far worse and as such, the original didn't need to be altered to suit Australia's MA15+ rating. I think the gore in the uncensored version of L4D2 was actually quite unnecessary (to the extent where you could see bones and organs in corpses...), L4D1 was enough for my tastes.

That point being made, i don't agree that more gore makes the game better. I completely agree that the censored version of L4D2 was ridiculous but i also think that the uncensored version was over-kill. I like it in between, to the point where it doesn't need to be censored. That being said, i fully support the R18 movement in Australia!

I remember the rating situation in germany when Half Life 1 was released in 1998.
The original got forbidden and the german version had robots instead of humans and the blood of the aliens was made green. This was an abomination without precedent. Thank god that our rating agency has changed their appraisal factors. No more forced robot wars

@ Shin

Is the rating in australia as strict for every medial release or just for videogames ?
Even for music? Some of my favorite bands from australia use explicit lyrics.. it would be sad to hear that they cant sell records to underaged people because of the ratings/censorship.
Im speakin about bands like Parkway Drive, I killed the prom Queen and Thy art is murder.

I think games should have options to turn that stuff off or at least reduce the intesity of it, crysis had an option to turn off blood even though it wasn't bad during gameplay, Gears of War for PC had an option to where you could turn the Blood, gore and language off. So i think it should be at least a feature for the mature rated games.

The highest rating Australia has for video games is MA15+, we have R18 for all other media as far as i'm aware. Can't say i've ever seen an R18 music CD before though!

The highest rating Australia has for video games is MA15+, we have R18 for all other media as far as i'm aware. Can't say i've ever seen an R18 music CD before though!

So how did you ever manage to play Crysis 1 and above, when it was an M-rated game (17+ years old and above) with such a harsh restriction on games there ?

Crysis 1 was rated MA15+ in Australia. Different boards (countries) rate games differently, depending on what ratings they have. Crysis 2 will be passed under MA15+ in Australia.

Crysis 1 was rated MA15+ in Australia. Different boards (countries) rate games differently, depending on what ratings they have. Crysis 2 will be passed under MA15+ in Australia.

Well, that's good news for you. Good luck playing Crysis 2. Shin,

Having seen the Australian version, i know exactly what you're talking about however, i'd like to touch on a few of your points. L4D2 was too violent for Australia because it couldn't be passed under a non-existent R18 rating. It had to be censored heavily in order to comply with Australia's highest rating; MA15+.

L4D2's gore over the original was far worse and as such, the original didn't need to be altered to suit Australia's MA15+ rating. I think the gore in the uncensored version of L4D2 was actually quite unnecessary (to the extent where you could see bones and organs in corpses...), L4D1 was enough for my tastes.

That point being made, i don't agree that more gore makes the game better. I completely agree that the censored version of L4D2 was ridiculous but i also think that the uncensored version was over-kill. I like it in between, to the point where it doesn't need to be censored. That being said, i fully support the R18 movement in Australia!
I actually read quite a bit into it, because my friend was gonna get it.
It wasn't the gore itself, but as I said it before, realistic violence against human beings - especially with melee weapons in a 1st person perspective that stopped it getting a 15+ rating.

If you look around, there are much more gory/violent games on the Aussie market.
Gears of War 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Condemned 2, ect.
In Ninja Gaiden, you knock off a guys arm and it shoots out more blood than the human body actually has. In fact; knocking off limbs is an actual game mechanic, and is an important part of the gameplay.

Mortal Kombat (2011) will have horrific mutilations [cutting someone in half from the groin up, then holding the two pieces of the body up to show - organs, bones and all, and I think one character even rips off peoples heads and eats them], and this is something that's actually promoted as a "feature", and as far as I know - it wont have any problems in Australia.

I think you see my point.
You might not agree, but I think the fact that it's a marketing feature says how much the general public like seeing head explode.

It saddens me to see a classic game like l4d2 get messed up like that. I'm happy that no one bought the censored australian version. Honestly it sounds like another case of a gaming director getting frustrated and loosing patience with the overzealous censorship laws in australia. essentially out of anger the l4d2 team just took all the violence out of the game as a joke for ausies. My suggestion is that if your australian just get another hobby.

My view with video games is simple as much destruction and mayhem as humanly possible. I do understand that crysis 2 is an alien invasion but that changes nothing. LIke arnold said during predators if it bleeds we can kill it. Aliens should not be exempt from gibbing and dismemberment we don't need another sesame street halo cop off. I want that beautiful crysis engine showing the full mayhem and carnage of warfare.

It saddens me to see a classic game like l4d2 get messed up like that. I'm happy that no one bought the censored australian version. Honestly it sounds like another case of a gaming director getting frustrated and loosing patience with the overzealous censorship laws in australia. essentially out of anger the l4d2 team just took all the violence out of the game as a joke for ausies. My suggestion is that if your australian just get another hobby.

My view with video games is simple as much destruction and mayhem as humanly possible. I do understand that crysis 2 is an alien invasion but that changes nothing. LIke arnold said during predators if it bleeds we can kill it. Aliens should not be exempt from gibbing and dismemberment we don't need another sesame street halo cop off. I want that beautiful crysis engine showing the full mayhem and carnage of warfare.

How momentous, true, yet - let's try not to insult people of a certain nationality. Okay

How momentous, true, yet - let's try not to insult people of a certain nationality. Okay

**** yea I'm sorry man just got excited there. Just can't understand why l4d2 would get mutilated like that have all of the gory content removed. The idea of a heavily censored version of l4d2 its like an abomination. After that guy mentioned the heavily censored australian version I had to go play my own uncensored version. I mean why would someone want to do that to such a classic video game why?! A classic game like that its a work of art. God of war 3, l4d2, fallout and others as well. These games are sacred man. Could you imagine god of war 3 with no gore or violence whatsoever : (

But staying on point gamers really don't want another halo with cute aliens that fall over dead with no real gore or trauma. gamers want lots of dismemberment and gibbing. Afterall quake did atleast have gibbing in it and it was alien strogg you were killin. Also I imagine in multiplayer we will be fighting other humanoid characters in nonosuits and there needs to be gore and gibbing there as well.

How momentous, true, yet - let's try not to insult people of a certain nationality. Okay

But staying on point gamers really don't want another halo with cute aliens that fall over dead with no real gore or trauma. gamers want lots of dismemberment and gibbing. Afterall quake did atleast have gibbing in it and it was alien strogg you were killin. Also I imagine in multiplayer we will be fighting other humanoid characters in nonosuits and there needs to be gore and gibbing there as well.

That can be arranged...