last of the dragonborn? : V - Skyrim

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:24 pm

Because you guys were too lazy to google(i found it in 5 secs)

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/01/20/skyrim-s-dragon-shouts.aspx

Spoiler

"There are other people in the world who can use the dragon shouts, but it’s very rare. It’s like arcane knowledge. It used to be done more in the past"

I remember it was on twitter as well but i'm not going back months

» Sun May 13, 2012 5:29 pm

No, we're the currently the only Dragonborn alive but there are the Tongues who use the Way of the Voice which seems to be practically the same, I presume they cannot absorb Dragon souls or use Thu'um that is connected to Dragons.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:48 am

I remain skeptical until you can come up with a source. You're the only dragon born. You have to be dragon born to speak the language of dragons. If it's not the language of dragons, it's not a dragon shout. The Nords use shouts, but they aren't dragon shouts, they're Nord shouts (Thu-um).

For more about Thu-um, see the Oblivion in-game book: Children of the Sky. See here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Children_of_the_Sky

If you read that, you'll notice that the magical powers of the Nordic voice are described as being sort of like the spells of Oblivion, though with some exceptions. They can sharpen swords, push enemies away, make them afraid, etc. I suppose they can also cast charm spells, detect life spells, invisibility spells, and some other useful spells too. And best of all, it's all done with the voice so that they can conserve their magicka for healing purposes. :wink_smile:

Dragon shouts are different. With dragon shouts, you can encase your enemies in ice, breathe fire, or call down a bolt of lightning to shock your enemies. :shocking:

Hopefully, the difference between the two is now clear. Dragon shouts are on a whole different level altogether.

What confuses the whole "Dragon Shout being seperate from Thu'um" is that Todd in one of the demos he commentated on described Dragon Shouts as a Thu'um. I'll try and find which video it is.

EDIT: Ah in the leaked PAX footage he was describing the Greybeard but at the end he said "I'll show you some of that later" When he was talking about Thu'um.

...Silly Todd.

» Sun May 13, 2012 3:11 pm

well back to my original question, is the player character the only dragonborn in skyrim, or are there other npcs that are dragonborn and part of this prophecy too. that gameinformer articles states that the greybeards know the dragon shouts but not necessarily dragonborn. i'm hoping for a game that revolves around the player character like morrowind, but not oblivion where you are basically just a servant to the real hero.

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:58 pm

No, the scrolls are of unknown quantity.

If I remember correctly the scrolls contain unreadable signs that becomes readable only to those who are destined to fulfill the prophecy or to their keepers who can seek to find an answer to questions posed by others. So basically they're a sort of fantasy version of Wolfram Alpha :lol:

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:42 am

ok hopefully this will clarify things

dragon born are mortals born with the soul of a dragon hence there ability to to use the dragon language and learn said language very quickly and use shouts

thu'um can take years of practice to learn by even the most adapt student dragon bornes can pick up shouts near instatly as well as thu'um though that part im guessing but seems true as tiber septim was trained in the use of thu'um by the grey beards

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:34 pm

From what I've gathered, you're the only dragonborn alive/in Skyrim at the time of this crisis. The Nerevarine was a dragonborn, although no one understood it at the time (go back and read the Nerevarine prophecies). There are probably others, but I'm not sure/don't have links to texts confirming. This I know however: you're not the only Dragonborn since Tiber Septim, but you're the only one in alive in Skyrim at the time.

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:09 am

From what I've gathered, you're the only dragonborn alive/in Skyrim at the time of this crisis. The Nerevarine was a dragonborn, although no one understood it at the time (go back and read the Nerevarine prophecies). There are probably others, but I'm not sure/don't have links to texts confirming. This I know however: you're not the only Dragonborn since Tiber Septim, but you're the only one in alive in Skyrim at the time.

What?

Nerevarine - a dragonborn?

Are you mad?

» Sun May 13, 2012 5:34 pm

What?

Nerevarine - a dragonborn?

Are you mad?

This be true! Nerevarine was a dragonborn.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:42 pm

What?

Nerevarine - a dragonborn?

Are you mad?

http://imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-lost-prophecy

No, not mad. The notes at the bottom are the writings of the fictional character Barelo, and considering how pretty much every in game text is subject to unreliable narrator, it's not a stretch to say that Barelo misunderstood the term. A viable interpretation of this is that the Nerevarine was literally a dragonborn.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:20 am

Spoiler

"Those who become Emperor and light the dragonfires are surely dragonborn - the proof is in the wearing of the Amulet and the lighting of the Fires. But were they Dragonborn and thus able to do these things - or was the doing the sign of the blessing of Akatosh descending upon them? All that we can say is that it is both and neither - a divine mystery."

-Emelene Madrine, The Book of the Dragonborn

So from what I gather from this, I'd say the Septims were Dragonborns, so either you're the last of the Septim bloodline or Akatosh directly 'descended upon you'. In either case you're probably the last Dragonborn yes, unless the Gods decide otherwise later on :shrug:

PS:Ooo, maybe Martin had an heir? Or some fun in Bruma before he went to battle. :hubbahubba:

PPS: If you're playing as an Orc it'd mean Martin spent a night with some Orc in Bruma :rofl:

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:32 am

just want to know if anyone has the answer to this. Some previews say that the character you play as is the last of the dragonborn, while other say there will be more as in a group of them. Which one is correct?

No your not the last aleast that up to the divine a dragonborn in one blessed by the divine but it mainly runs in the family if one if dragonborn like in uriels family

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:26 am

The leader of the Stormcloaks, Ulfric Stormcloak, and the Grey Beards use Thu'um. It isn't the same as Dragon Shouts.

they are the same its just not the same as being dragonborn

» Sun May 13, 2012 2:31 pm

Only difference between a Dragonborn's shout and a Nord's is one is in Dragon Language the other isn't from what I understand

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:07 pm

PS:Ooo, maybe Martin had an heir? Or some fun in Bruma before he went to battle. :hubbahubba:

PPS: If you're playing as an Orc it'd mean Martin spent a night with some Orc in Bruma :rofl:

So... now we are the rightfull heir to the Imperial Empire? :teehee:

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:16 am

So... now we are the rightfull heir to the Imperial Empire? :teehee:

If the Dragonborn really is it I doubt Titus Medes will want to aknowledge his right to the throne

And the 'Imperial Empire'

Good one.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:52 pm

A dragonborn is merely (as in, the principle is quite simple) a person born with the soul of a dragon.

now simply, we dont know if this would be herreditery, so maybe your parents (or one of them) was a dragonborn to.

a more likely senario however is that being a dragonborn is a feat of destiny. (or luck)

adding to this the fact that even though one might be born a dragonborn, he may never see a dragon in his life (or the language they use) and therefor live a ordinary life.

so in conclusion and to awnser your question ;

are there other dragonborn : there have been in the past, so probably yeah.
will I meet them? maybe, however a dragonborn that can fully use his abilities?, no you wont