Assumptions

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:34 pm

1: Emphasis on PVP, those combo attacks, 3 factions instead of two, different class structure, public dungeons, a different blocking system, hubless quest design, the fact that if it is a ripoff of anything it would be of Guild Wars.
2: You haven't been looking at anyone's complaints, have you? And you call it ugly? Those screenshots have pretty good graphics and visual design I think.

1. That's detailing, the core is still like WoW (and practically every other MMO). I remember that 10-15 years ago, a company launched an operating system meant to competer with Windows. They claimed, in their TV adds, that it was very different, because it didn't have an hourglass... This was true. It had a little clock-icon, which meant the exact same thing. I think this is very much like the current MMO market...
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:10 pm

He didn't say perks unlocked through PvP levels. He said perks could be for a number of things and they will actually be worth it and change how you play. Not insignificant achievements that you get in WoW.

You have to unlock them anyhow. So it's a fair assumption that you have to unlock them in trade for some time you have to put in. Or Levels, which is just another term for the time you've invested in something(atleast in these days).
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:20 pm

DAoC, Gw1, Gw2, Lineage



Gw2, AION



That's not really a ground-breaking feauture. What's next? 4 factions?



You probably mean the holy trinity. This is not the first game to attempt trumping it. And we didnt even see how they've dealt with it



EQ



Any weapon can block. That's interesting, we'll just have to see how they implement it.



Gw2



Yup and DAoC.

Anyway I agree that some of the things you mention ought to be strived for like hubless questing. But most of these feautures are nothing groundbreaking, we've seen it so many times before. ZOS needs to be way more original if they want TESO to be special and stand out among other MMOs.

Yeah but he was not making a list of things that are ground breaking, he was listing how it was different from WoW as the OP asked.

Also, GW2 isn't out yet and ESO began developement around the same time so you can technically call some of those ideas original.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:43 pm

Sorry, can't help you. TES Online is a disaster, it will always be a disaster. I can not support it and if asked I will not recommend the game to anyone.

So wft are you doing here,trolling for the sake of trolling,their can be no other reason for you to be on these TESO forums.You don't like what's on offer,great we know now, so why don't you save yourself finger exercises and leave,seriously do you really think you are going to make a slight bit of difference to this game getting released.

Don't recommend the game,who gives a flying fig,don't let the door hit you on the way out,oh wait,perhaps you should let the door hit you on the way out,perhaps it will knock some sense into you.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:39 pm

Sorry, can't help you. TES Online is a disaster, it will always be a disaster. I can not support it and if asked I will not recommend the game to anyone.

So wft are you doing here,trolling for the sake of trolling,their can be no other reason for you to be on these TESO forums.You don't like what's on offer,great we know now, so why don't you save yourself finger exercises and leave,seriously do you really think you are going to make a slight bit of difference to this game getting released.

Don't recommend the game,who gives a flying fig,don't let the door hit you on the way out,oh wait,perhaps you should let the door hit you on the way out,perhaps it will knock some sense into you.

He is not trolling, he's obviously dissapointed like most of us. And for a good reason.

EDIT: If you haven't played the series from its first stages you can't understand. It's like watching a child grow up into a complete d1ckhead.

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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:44 pm

He is not trolling, he's obviously dissapointed like most of us. And for a good reason.

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Being disappointed is one thing but if in his own words " I cannot support it and if asked I will not recommend the game to anyone" why would you visit or post on a game forum when you think said game is a disaster and you will never support it,only to troll IMO

Oh,and i have played every TES game ever made,i even have DaggerFall running on my Samsung Galaxy S 2,i understand perfectly well.

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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:37 pm

He is not trolling, he's obviously dissapointed like most of us. And for a good reason.

EDIT: If you haven't played the series from its first stages you can't understand. It's like watching a child grow up into a complete d1ckhead.

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I have played the series a long time and Im looking forward to the MMO.
I view it as not being a part of the main TES RPG series, but a game that takes place in the same universe.
Like Redguard and Battlespire.
Both those games used very different mechanics from the TES series but they were good games in their own right.
I hope that the elder scrolls MMO simply will be a good MMO, I dont see it as related to the history or future of the main series.

Im looking forward to being able to roleplay with fellow TES junkies in a virtual Tamriel.
Maybe if you look at it like that, its not all that bad.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:35 am

Its funny how this thread said to stop making assumptions, and then the next 2 pages of replies contain wild assumptions :lol:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:59 pm

I have played the series a long time and Im looking forward to the MMO.
I view it as not being a part of the main TES RPG series, but a game that takes place in the same universe.
Like Redguard and Battlespire.
Both those games used very different mechanics from the TES series but they were good games in their own right.
I hope that the elder scrolls MMO simply will be a good MMO, I dont see it as related to the history or future of the main series.

Im looking forward to being able to roleplay with fellow TES junkies in a virtual Tamriel.
Maybe if you look at it like that, its not all that bad.

The game isn't like Battlespire and Redguard. This isn't a spinoff. This is TES Online. This multiple provinces from the world of Tamriel. All the races are the same, the skill sets are the same, the guilds are the same.

They are taking TES and putting it online. That worries me. I don't want to see the Single Player TES series end because Zenimax just wants one TES series and decide that TES Online is that series.

TES does not belong online in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:31 pm

He is not trolling, he's obviously dissapointed like most of us. And for a good reason.

EDIT: If you haven't played the series from its first stages you can't understand. It's like watching a child grow up into a complete d1ckhead.

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Eno
Thing is, there is 0 way to know how the game will turn out so nobody can really call it epic or garbage without just being blind. Not enough information has been revealed yet. The attitudes here can be ridiculous.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:32 pm

The game isn't like Battlespire and Redguard. This isn't a spinoff. This is TES Online. This multiple provinces from the world of Tamriel. All the races are the same, the skill sets are the same, the guilds are the same.

They are taking TES and putting it online. That worries me. I don't want to see the Single Player TES series end because Zenimax just wants one TES series and decide that TES Online is that series.

TES does not belong online in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

But the lore is always the same in an Elder Scrolls game.
That does not make it a part of the main TES RPG series, it just makes it an Elder Scrolls game.
Redguard, Battlespire and the three mobile games have all been like that.

Ive always wanted to roleplay online with other people in Tamriel.
I agree that the RPG series would not be the best medium for that, but maybe the MMO format is.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:35 pm

Thing is, there is 0 way to know how the game will turn out

I know what you mean however it is fairly easy to properly interpret certain symptoms when it comes to the online market. Or like I said in another thread, it's very easy to be psychic in this matter. And people whining all the time has a purpose in that it could actually change something for the better by drawing attention.

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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:18 am

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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:02 am

people fear what they are not exposed to.

WRONG

people fear what they've already been exposed to.

I don't care if the hotkey UI system is just like WoW's and SWTOR's.....I just want the vast involving world of TES without the 'hold-your-hand" features given from WoW.

if I can get to level cap and endgame ready in 1 week of it going live, and it was made that way to 'cater to the casuals"....then forget it

if not,...then I'm so into it.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:18 pm

WRONG

people fear what they've already been exposed to.

I don't care if the hotkey UI system is just like WoW's and SWTOR's.....I just want the vast involving world of TES without the 'hold-your-hand" features given from WoW.

if I can get to level cap and endgame ready in 1 week of it going live, and it was made that way to 'cater to the casuals"....then forget it

if not,...then I'm so into it.
So I take it you didn't purchase Skyrim?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:05 am

So wft are you doing here,trolling for the sake of trolling,their can be no other reason for you to be on these TESO forums.You don't like what's on offer,great we know now, so why don't you save yourself finger exercises and leave,seriously do you really think you are going to make a slight bit of difference to this game getting released.

Don't recommend the game,who gives a flying fig,don't let the door hit you on the way out,oh wait,perhaps you should let the door hit you on the way out,perhaps it will knock some sense into you.

Loved this response. I think of these people the same.
They claim to be dissapointed... of a game they dont played yet lol.
To my eyes its like skyrim release... people saying "I dont like this game... after 2343454334 hours of play..." just LOL
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:09 am

Loved this response. I think of these people the same.
They claim to be dissapointed... of a game they dont played yet lol.
To my eyes its like skyrim release... people saying "I dont like this game... after 2343454334 hours of play..." just LOL

The problem is, most of us already played this game, even if it had another name. Thats the problem with clones. They all play the same. Some with lasers, some with swords, some with elves, some with ugly space monsters. Doesn't matter, if the gameplay is always the same.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:47 pm

The problem is, most of us already played this game, even if it had another name. Thats the problem with clones. They all play the same. Some with lasers, some with swords, some with elves, some with ugly space monsters. Doesn't matter, if the gameplay is always the same.

You do know what a clone is don't you? Cloning means you make the exact twin of the thing you are cloning.Now, i'm pretty sure that WOW has never been cloned,no other MMO has the WOW lore or has the same races or the same names of the races and cities,are you sure you know what cloning is?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:11 pm

You may played a clone of wathever. I will first play TESO and then I will give my opinion of it (Good or bad)
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:54 am

I for one look forward to TES:O. It looks pretty good, and I'm not into MMORPGS normally.

The main problem I see with it is people's assumptions. People keep assuming that the game would just be like World of Warcraft and that it would ruin the lore. What little I've heard of the game mechanics doesn't seem to be too much like WOW, and the lore seems pretty sound. It's not like it had the Dwemer in the 2nd Era or Hermaeus Mora being the god of the Orcs or anything that is blatant violations, just a few things that are unlikely but still possible.

I feel these assumptions could be the downfall of a potentially all-right game. If enough people react with enough venom, there wouldn't be enough people buying it, thus causing it to collapse early. All I am saying is that we should give it a chance, instead of instantly dismissing it and thus leading it to ruin. Don't scream about how it is going to be bad. Hell, for all we know it could be the greatest game ever made. I trust the developers to bring justice to the Elder Scrolls. From what I've heard of them, they are a capable bunch. Besides, worst case scenario, it isn't like it would suddenly make Morrowind and Skyrim and any future games horrible.

Game is going to svck. Just, it is. It's already been made.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:41 am

Game is going to svck. Just, it is. It's already been made.

Okay,so how many times are you going to use the same tired line "the game is going to svcks" cry more why don't you,someone might give you a dummy to stop the tears.Their is a simple solution to stop the pain you are presently feeling,that is,move on and don't come back,no point in beating yourself up.

You can't do anything about the game,oh wait,you want everyone else to share your opinion,right?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 2:06 am

Okay,so how many times are you going to use the same tired line "the game is going to svcks" cry more why don't you,someone might give you a dummy to stop the tears.Their is a simple solution to stop the pain you are presently feeling,that is,move on and don't come back,no point in beating yourself up.

You can't do anything about the game,oh wait,you want everyone else to share your opinion,right?

+1 :nod:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:07 pm

The problem is, most of us already played this game, even if it had another name. Thats the problem with clones. They all play the same. Some with lasers, some with swords, some with elves, some with ugly space monsters. Doesn't matter, if the gameplay is always the same.
You have yet to play an online game by this studio with the backing of Bethesda. Wait rather than assume.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:00 pm

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