10,000 yr old pyramid, Japan

Post » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:48 pm

It's much safer for an academic to play by the rules and accept common dogma, thereby receiving tenure, funding, and a paycheck.

Yes it is. And frankly, I can't blame them.

The fact is these structures or "formations" exist and deserve serious research.

There are those who are researching it, its not as if no-one is paying any attention.

But there simply isn't enough to go on at this point. The structure is most likely a natural formation, much like the famed "Bimini Road." Thus, scholars simply don't see much promise in devoting more research towards it than has been given.
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Post » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:47 pm

I've heard about them for a couple of years now, indeed it is sad its more or less shoved under the carpet and become synonymous with UFO nuts ( that said I do thing there is plausibility , in Aliens/old adv civilizations, but Wormholes and people claiming to speak to them just goes to far) theres something more to it than we know, but its been spoiled profoundly :/
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Post » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:51 pm

Ancient people are definitely surrounded by an aura of mystery. They were really advanced in a lot of ways. History shows humans were basically dwelling in caves as hunter-gatherers, and then, out of no where, became really advanced in just about every aspect.

And when you consider the earliest writing of man attributes this to beings that came from the sky, I'll be damned if I'm going to rule out the hypothesis that they had some help from extra-terrestrials just because others think it's silly for no good reason.
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Post » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:35 pm

Most scholars wont touch it. Historians wont speak of it, but it exists. I'm none too surprised to see this sort of thing go unnoticed by academia.. It seems in the sciences and humanities a profound skepticism for everything that doesn't fit with the accepted historical record or sciences. So profound that it has become more of a poison than helpful as it was in the past.
This is a common view, but if you've actually done academic history beyond high school level you'll realise that historians are not a monolithic bunch, and will jump at any chance to prove their colleagues wrong, even in the smallest things. And historical understanding of the past changes dramatically all the time. An example that's fresh on my mind is the discovery of the Linear B tablets, which completely changed our understanding of Mycenaean Greece - for instance it was thought the Dionysus was a new god introduced from up north, but it turns out that he is actually one of the older Greek gods. Another related example is how Milman Parry's work on illiterate Yugoslavian bards completely changed how Homer's works are understood.

The point being, when presented with convincing evidence, historians will tend to eat crow and change their minds. My impression is that it's the same with the other sciences as well. It's where the strength of the scientific method lies. If something's not widely accepted in the scientific community and you want to know why, don't just take Discovery Channel's (or *shudder* the so-called History Channel's) word for it. Go read some academic journals. Chances are you'll find pretty reasonable counter-arguments and explanations as to why it's not being adopted by the mainstream.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:16 am

Lol my first guess was that it's a natural occurrence (as my inner skeptic would love to believe) but now now that I saw a picture in the link provided it looks man-made. At this point, historians have discovered pyramids and pyramid like structures all over the world; from Egypt to the Aztecs, Mayans and Incas and now even Japan. To be honest, this is not surprising as anyone who wishes to build a structure of great longevity and knows a little geometry (which most pyramid-building cultures probably did) then a triangle (or pyramid) is a very good choice to go with. What surprises me about this is not the fact that the structure is a pyramid, but that it survived whatever cataclysmic event put it on the seabed. It's hardly likely that it happened due to natural tectonic movement or erosion as it's not nearly old enough for that, but I can't imagine what else could have done it.

EDIT: Maybe it is natural.

Ancient people are definitely surrounded by an aura of mystery. They were really advanced in a lot of ways. History shows humans were basically dwelling in caves as hunter-gatherers, and then, out of no where, became really advanced in just about every aspect.

And when you consider the earliest writing of man attributes this to beings that came from the sky, I'll be damned if I'm going to rule out the hypothesis that they had some help from extra-terrestrials just because others think it's silly for no good reason.

That didn't happen overnight, and they weren't advanced in every aspect. Actually, it's weird how advanced they were in some things and how primitive in others. The Aztecs are a prime example of this; they knew a ton about engineering (they built a bloody artificial island!) and arguably at astronomy but interestingly were stuck in an antiquity-stage society and didn't know things like smelting metal armor and making rudimentary firearms. I dunno, if these ancient cultures were visited by aliens, one would expect the aliens would have taught them other things than how to calculate huge numbers and build massive piles of stone.
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Post » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:53 am

I'll be damned if I'm going to rule out the hypothesis that they had some help from extra-terrestrials just because others think it's silly for no good reason.

The problem I have with this is that it diminishes the success of the human race and the achievements that ancient civilizations made. As if these people were "too stupid" to construct great monuments themselves without outside help from some ET.
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