Daedric Lore

Post » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:35 pm

Why do players choose to have characters that avoid anything Daedric?

I've read posts of people even refusing to use Daedric equipment because they associate it with evil. I think one of the staples of TES is Daedric lore, so disregarding it from my game seems like I am missing out on a huge chunk of the game and lore.

I can understand maybe refusing to help 1 or 2 Daedric requests because it will soil your character but I don't think your character necessarily needs to be evil to explore the Daedric aspect of this game. Your character can be manipulated and just because you help out a Daedric Lord, doesn't mean your character can't later do good things and change his ways.

But even my super good characters doesn't have a problem with using a Daedric weapon or summoning a creature from Oblivion.
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Rowena
 
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:06 am

No matter the character, i always get Azuras Star and Dawnbreaker. Meridia and Azura are the 2 least evil Daedra, if barely evil at all... I find Aedra more evil than those 2.
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Jerry Jr. Ortiz
 
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:46 am

Well, it is just a part of roleplay, IMHO. The NPCs in Tamriel have a tendency to fear and avoid the Daedra, except for cults and the Dunmer. You start worshiping Daedra openly - be prepared to welcome the Vigilant of Stendarr. Personally I always do Daedric quests - they are fun, especially Sheogorath's stuff. And the Wabbajack is absolutely priceless. But others may choose to abide by a strict code of honour, to be more lore-friendly. You know, it's like when folks create separate charachters to do each of the guilds.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:26 am

I mostly stay away from the Daedra with my good characters (hwich is pretty much everyone of them, besides my Dunmers). My Nords are against them and worships the nine divines, use typical nordic armor and have no kind of deadric armor, weapon or book in their house
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:27 am

Roleplay the perfectly good character if such exists in the real world? does anyone know such a perfect being? no thought not everyone has a dark side to greater or lesser degrees so i feel if you role a pure character it is actually less realistic than playing a normal being who is both good and bad at the same time
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Post » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:38 pm

I agree with the OP to a point but the majority of the Daedric quests do require acts that are "evil" by just about any definition of the word IMO. Can't speak for everyone but exposure to them has left a bad taste in my mouth with regard to the Daedric quests in general, with the exception of Sanguine's - which doesn't really require me to do anything my character wouldn't do anyway, at least when she's sober :tongue: - and Sheogorath's, which is harmless in terms of "real world" impact. Meridia's and Azura's and possibly Vile's quests would probably also fall into the acceptable category for me, but I find them all rather tedious on repeated playthroughs and the rewards don't really mean much to me. Vile's quest is especially irritating since 1) I hate that stupid dog and 2) avoiding it entirely makes one of the province's capital cities off-limits unless I make a point of never entering or leaving it like any normal character would (i.e. via one of the roads in or out) and I can never risk taking a carriage there either. It also makes it impossible to do any business with the local blacksmith.

It's fine to RP that you've been tricked into doing something you can't get out of, but the reality is that the reason you can't "get out" of most of it boils down to quest design and the inability to refuse a quest once you've stumbled onto it or had your character's business hijacked by some NPC who insists on giving it to you whether you wanted it or not. For that reason I've found ways to "fail" a couple of the quests on purpose, but that's not always possible either. And no matter how much I try to RP that I got tricked into something and it's "okay" for that reason, that doesn't change the fact that *I* know what's going to happen, and I wasn't tricked at all, I was just the "victim" of what I consider to be some really lousy quest design. :tongue:

i think that's the real thing that has put me off the Daedric quests overall, the way so many of them are forced on characters who then have no way to tell the Daedra in question to stuff it, because it's not gonna happen.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:01 am

Depends on the prince involved. Most of them are evil, though, as the majority of the quests involve you murdering an innocent to gain power.
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Post » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:14 pm

It's in how you choose to roleplay. I've never done Boethiah's or Molag Bal's quests, don't go along with Namira's and I've never saved the Skull of Corruption. I prefer to screw the daedra over if I can.

No one resists the Oghma Infinium, though, right. :)
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:18 am

My character Leon did every single Daedric quest, his logic is basically this:

1. I just do, I don't self reflect.

2. The Divines don't even bother protecting those who worship them the most, so to hell with them.

3. The Daedra reward me, what have the Divines done for me lately?

4. Daedric weapons are a large part of my arsenal, Daedric sword, Mehrune's razor, Daedric bow, etc. (Not sure if Blade of Woe has Daedric origins)

5. I like to collect artifacts and there are no better treasures than Daedric

6. Some Daedric Lords and Princes are logical for worship, such as Hircine since I am an avid hunter.
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Post » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:12 pm

No one resists the Oghma Infinium, though, right. :smile:

That would be another on my acceptable list for a good character, yep. More or less, anyway - I guess you could argue that if you refused it
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Septimus wouldn't end up dead but IIRC his death is the only one that is an unavoidable result of doing it, and you're not the one who kills him.
It's certainly a far cry from Namira's or Boethiah's heinous demands.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:37 am

My character Leon did every single Daedric quest, his logic is basically this:

1. I just do, I don't self reflect.

2. The Divines don't even bother protecting those who worship them the most, so to hell with them.

3. The Daedra reward me, what have the Divines done for me lately?

4. Daedric weapons are a large part of my arsenal, Daedric sword, Mehrune's razor, Daedric bow, etc. (Not sure if Blade of Woe has Daedric origins)

5. I like to collect artifacts and there are no better treasures than Daedric

6. Some Daedric Lords and Princes are logical for worship, such as Hircine since I am an avid hunter.


Morality is different for everyone. One note about the divines though: I tend to prefer the Daedra as well, but to be fair... It's not that they don't want to help you. Believe me they WANT to help you and give you fancy stuff... But they cant because they gave up their Daedric-esque powers creating Nirn. That said, with their limited powers they can however still give blessings and other unique stuff(Dragonblood).
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:05 am

My character Leon did every single Daedric quest, his logic is basically this:

1. I just do, I don't self reflect.

2. The Divines don't even bother protecting those who worship them the most, so to hell with them.

3. The Daedra reward me, what have the Divines done for me lately?

4. Daedric weapons are a large part of my arsenal, Daedric sword, Mehrune's razor, Daedric bow, etc. (Not sure if Blade of Woe has Daedric origins)

5. I like to collect artifacts and there are no better treasures than Daedric

6. Some Daedric Lords and Princes are logical for worship, such as Hircine since I am an avid hunter.
The daedra are capricious and self-serving. The fact that the aedra aren't much better doesn't change that about them. Also I don't particularly like being their lackey. Not that I don't sometimes still do it, to get their goodies or just for the quest. In some cases like with Mephala I do the quest in order to prevent the daedra from harming someone less capable of handling it.
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Post » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:34 am

All Daedric princes are considered evil. A few of them are less evil than the others, but still evil.

Vigilants of Stendarr outright hate daedra. This hatred is based on the very being of what the princes are and do. To me, it's perfectly understandable to not have a mind that wants you to follow the daedra's wishes.
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Post » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:55 pm

All Daedric princes are considered evil. A few of them are less evil than the others, but still evil.

Vigilants of Stendarr outright hate daedra. This hatred is based on the very being of what the princes are and do. To me, it's perfectly understandable to not have a mind that wants you to follow the daedra's wishes.
The Vigilants themselves are pretty shady. Who appointed them the boss of me? Really it's not a black- white thing. It's based on the different races' or individuals' disposition toward the gods.
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