AI navigation : Othor Games

» Tue May 07, 2013 8:17 am

Ok, next problem I see. In DOOM 3/QUAKE 4 AI navigation was very easy, monsters use simple brush collision or in more complex situation clip area navigation, but this isn't work in RAGE. For example here is map code, which shows this simple problem (just copy it to notepad, change name for map, add to map folder, open in tool and run build). You see that AI running to wall and collide with it not properly, I was trying with clip, aas volumes but this not help.

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I was watching the well map, but there is nothinh special, only clip brushes. Could someone change this map to get properly AI navigation?

EDIT: sorry for posting such big code, next time I'll be got more time, and I just host map file at some server.

» Mon May 06, 2013 10:03 pm

The AAS compiler didn't get approval on time to get in the first version of the toolkit. http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1446019-building-aas/ it'll be in the next update to the toolkit, but that's why the AI won't obey it for now.

Kind of a pain, but such is life. Your best bet would be to just ignore AI pathing until the update I'm afraid. Though from what I understand of how it's supposed to work, you're doing it right with the AAS and clip brushes.

» Mon May 06, 2013 6:46 pm

That's good news, BarryK, I was thinking that I do smth wrong (but what, cause in DOOM 3 it was such easy ) Thanks for info!