Some PvP Suggestions

Post » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:52 pm

So far, PvP in TESO looks very promising. From what I have read, it seems that it may be better than any other RPG.

However, I am afraid it may not be quite as good as the best shooter PvP games.

In my opinion, the best PvP game, at this moment, is Planetside 2 (PS2).

I am very pleased to read that TESO pvp appears similiar to PS2.

Here is what I think makes good PvP:

1. Open World: please make cyrodiil into a huge area. Ideally, even larger than PS2 maps.

2. Three factions

3. first person view. Personally, I think third person view should be disabled because it gives an advantage. If there is a third person view, then unfortunately, I must use it, to remain competitive with other pvp players. Please disable third person view,at least in PvP. The mmo crowd will be unhappy. The ESO crowd will love it. We don't need another third person mmo with typical mmo combat. Be careful about catering to the mmo crowd, or you may lose the ESO crowd.

4. no auto aiming please. All attacks must be aimed.

5. please turn on friendly fire. Why? because it's realistic and makes combat more tactical and challenging. The damage caused by friendly fire can be decreased if full damage is too difficult for many players. Friendly fire in a RPG mmo will put TESO light years ahead of other mmo's.

6. Little or no hotbar.

7. PvP needs interesting goals, other than killing players, such as capture territory and resources.

8 . The difference between high level/gear and low level/gear should be minimized. One of the worst aspects of RPG pvp (vs shooter PvP) is that RPG pvp depends too much on level and gear. RPG pvp often seems very unbalanced compared to Shooter pvp. There are already plenty of gear2win RPG pvp games. Let's do something different this time.

9. Little or no death penalty. Absolutely, no loss of gear. Body looting will create an incentive to cheat/exploit/hack to kill high level players, in order to gear up quickly. Professional gold sellers, hackers, exploiters will earn real world money by looting bodies and selling the gear. Do not make a game which requires good gear to achieve success ... and then take that gear away, when we die.

10. Be careful with invisibility and sneaking. It's not fun to fight invisible enemies. Invisible or stealthed players should be targetable. In Planetside 2, I kill invisible players with ease. How? because invisible players are not 100% invisible, and because PS2 allows me to aim and shoot at anything. On the other hand, in neverwinter online, even if you guess the location of a stealthed player, you still can't aim at his location. Stealth should not give resistance to targeting or resistance to damage. At the very least, invisible players should still make footstep sounds.

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Dan Wright
 
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Post » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:46 pm

How much research did you do, if I might ask.

Most of those suggestions are already present in ESO.

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Leah
 
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Post » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:08 am

1. Done already.

2. Done and done.

3. 3rd and 1st person view will be there. Some of us aren't into that "immersion" thing or find themselves getting dizzy in 1st person. Let people play how they want.

4. Pretty much there.

5. No idea on this one, but I think it's there.

6. It is a very small hotbar.

7. Already there.

8. There will be significant differences between gear, but I doubt it'll be as big of one as a typical MMO.

9. I disagree with having such a small death penalty in the first place (should be bigger), but there is a small one in Cyrodiil, it being the travel time to get back to where you were.

10. I'm unsure of the specific mechanics with this one. Sneaking will be there for sure, however there will be ways to see them. Unsure about invisibility.

I'm sure someone else can answer these better than I have.

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Post » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:40 pm

Planetside 2 is a shooter not an MMO and its pretty bad.

1: Cyrodill is very big

2: Did you search a bit or did you just create a topic?

3: people that play PvP for progress reason, will stay in third person, so no if we disable something in pvp its first person.

4: Soft lock is in right know,

5: Nope bad idear, would svck to be a meele.

6: ....

7: Keep fights etc.. did you research a second?

8: Item Threadmill keeps MMO running, so you will feal the gear.

9: There is no Itemloot.

10: Cant agree a bit on that.

Planetside 2 has also lots of cheaters.

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anna ley
 
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Post » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:20 pm

ESO has not yet launched. ESO can still be changed, for better or worse.

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