Powder Gang bug?

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:07 pm

So I pay the dude 100 caps but when I walk inside the guy comes running in and starts shooting me. Why? Am I supposed to use stealthboys?
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John Moore
 
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:29 am

I haven't done any powder gang quest myself, but are you wearing faction armor?
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M!KkI
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:49 pm

If you wear clothes of those they don't like... They don't like you. Beyond that I dunno ~I've not played past Primm, and have only encountered them at Goodsprings.
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Joie Perez
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:05 pm

I haven't done any powder gang quest myself, but are you wearing faction armor?


I didn't have this problem but my friend did.

Same game/same system/we both helped the trader..different results.

I even went to the NCR correctional facility after clearing Primm,maybe it depends on when you recieve a certain encounter if you decided to help the trader early in the game.

Hopefully someone involved with the game clarifies what exactly turns this faction hostile because right now it seems random..there has to be a trigger though as to why people taking the same path get different reactions when going to the facilitly.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:56 pm

I haven't done any powder gang quest myself, but are you wearing faction armor?


Yes, the guard says he doesn't fall for it but continues to proceed in normal dialogue. Other powder (generic) aren't hostile.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:20 am

I not 100% sure but I recall reading somewhere that if you wear faction generic armor / clothes, opposite faction will shoot you on sight. No matter your rep. So If you go powder gangers in NCR armor they sure aint gonna hug you, same as if you go to NCR in powder ganger armor, you should be greeted with lead.

Or... whole faction thing is broken and buggy, which would not be suprising.

I think that Fallout new vegas could be very good game if all the major bugs could be fixed. Most anoying are the mission bugs and companion bugs. I have several mission that could not be completed because of a bug or missing desing on game.
I would say too much too soon! I was actually waiting to get this game on xmas or first quarter at 2011. Would been happy to wait few more months for better working product. Now im gonna play FO3 and other games and wait till dozen more patches are released. Might even play FO1 and 2 again just for the kicks. ( about the bugs, when fo2 was released it had a bug that made the game unplayable from the start.)

I have been enjoying the 30 hours of playtime in new vegas, haven't done the main questline yet, tried to do as much side missions as possible. Played hardcoe from the beginning and never gonna play it otherwise.
But the bugs and desing flaws are game breaking and Im sick and tired to reload old saves and try again if that quest would not brake this time.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:37 am

Did you start attacking back the group of Powder Gangers on the Road up to the NCR CF?? I found that the roaming gangs of Powder Gangers Attacked on site regardless of my Reputation with them, up until I spoke to the guy just inside the Visitors Centre at the NCR CF, But even though I was defending myself from Unprovoked attacks, my Reputation went from Neutral to Shunned to Hated.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:25 pm

Did you start attacking back the group of Powder Gangers on the Road up to the NCR CF?? I found that the roaming gangs of Powder Gangers Attacked on site regardless of my Reputation with them, up until I spoke to the guy just inside the Visitors Centre at the NCR CF, But even though I was defending myself from Unprovoked attacks, my Reputation went from Neutral to Shunned to Hated.


No, they were friendly. I did however kill them during the goodsprings event. Perhaps this is why? It doesn't explain why the generic powder gangers weren't hostile.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:43 pm

I had a similair problem, when you get a quest at the start which give you 3 options I went for the NCR one and ended up never going to the prison. So way later in my game I come across the prison and decide to see whats up. Everybody is nice and friendly and all of a sudden the whole prison turns hostile to me, my robodog and my best buddy Boone. I was in the middle of a quest for them... :thumbsdown:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:50 pm

I have this problem at the moment. Im trying to recruit a new sheriff for Primm. I killed the Powder Gangers at goodsprings and a few others on wandering. I approached the prison they told me they arent fooled by my armour but i paid the guard $100 to get in and as soon as I enter the door only he shoots me. I killed him and went to see the guvnor but they all shot me too despite all the others just ignoring me. It seems like a possible bug to me
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:24 pm

My first playthrough i had no probelms getting in, current playthrough Dawes attacks me when i get close to him(after bribing him 100 caps to get in). I helped Goodsprings fend off Cobb in both cases.


One thing i thought of that it might be, that I did defuse some of the traps otw there, they were "red" as if i was stealing them, could that have edged my reputation with them without the game saying so ? odd, plus after helping Goodsprings, in my stats, Powder gangers doesnt even show up.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:04 pm

I have this problem at the moment. Im trying to recruit a new sheriff for Primm. I killed the Powder Gangers at goodsprings and a few others on wandering. I approached the prison they told me they arent fooled by my armour but i paid the guard $100 to get in and as soon as I enter the door only he shoots me. I killed him and went to see the guvnor but they all shot me too despite all the others just ignoring me. It seems like a possible bug to me



My first playthrough i had no probelms getting in, current playthrough Dawes attacks me when i get close to him(after bribing him 100 caps to get in). I helped Goodsprings fend off Cobb in both cases.


One thing i thought of that it might be, that I did defuse some of the traps otw there, they were "red" as if i was stealing them, could that have edged my reputation with them without the game saying so ? odd, plus after helping Goodsprings, in my stats, Powder gangers doesnt even show up.


I have the same problem, it really seems like a bug now.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:09 am

my reputation was valified so without their armor they all attack you, but when you are wearing their armor only the guards will attack you because they can look trough your disguise, which is told in a loading screen, if you kill the guards you should be fine as long that you wear their armor. kill the guards quickly tho because they will warn their friends. so kill them quickly with i silenced weapon i suppose.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:58 pm

I tried a stealthboy to get to talk to Eddie & get some rep back with missions, but the main "named" characters attacked me on sight still.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:49 pm

my reputation was valified so without their armor they all attack you, but when you are wearing their armor only the guards will attack you because they can look trough your disguise, which is told in a loading screen, if you kill the guards you should be fine as long that you wear their armor. kill the guards quickly tho because they will warn their friends. so kill them quickly with i silenced weapon i suppose.

I think you're right. Then how do we get better reputation with the powder gangers?

I tried a stealthboy to get to talk to Eddie & get some rep back with missions, but the main "named" characters attacked me on sight still.

Same.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:02 pm

theres a guy with more than half a brain near the entrance, if you use power gang armor he will see through your ruse and shoot you. theres a good chance that the powder gangers dont like you.

see, soldiers cant see through your disguise, but dogs and higher ranking officers can. so its best to try to stay away from those guys.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:14 am

There is a quest require you NOT to kill one of the named guys....I finish finding the Sheriff for Primm fine, but unable to talk with the Powder Gangers at all.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:05 pm

I tried a stealthboy to get to talk to Eddie & get some rep back with missions, but the main "named" characters attacked me on sight still.

well, thats the problem you only can get a quest inside their compound so i think you will need to put the guards down with a silenced weapon and than proceed further. other than that i dont really have any suggestions

greetz

EDIT: i meant to quote on the other line
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:13 pm

The first time I did this quest I had the same problem as everybody else. You could talk to the guard outside, but he immediately attacked (making the rest of the gang leadership aggressive) once that was over.

The next time I went back he wasn't aggressive. The only difference in how I approached him is that I was wearing the Powder Ganger armor well outside his range of sight, I didn't disarm any mines in the area, and the first time I had dialogue with him I did play the 100 caps (thinking "what the point of giving him caps if he's just going to attack me anyway"). When he didn't go aggressive, I tried talking to him again and paid him the 100 caps, from that point forward nobody was aggressive and I was able to finish the Powder Ganger quest line (betraying them in the end) without any problems even though I had helped Goodsprings and was vilified by the group.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:58 pm

Well, I manage to get BOOTED! done without getting attack....maybe I should try the front door next time lol.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:57 am

Having another playthrough atm, and i am going to test to see when defending the town, if i dont kill any of the powder gangers when they attack, if that makes Dawes react differently.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:31 pm

It's kind of funky. I killed Cobb, all the PG outposts then went to the prison dressed as PG. Guard at door says he will let me in for $100, then attacks, I kill him. First guy on the right sees me, says let's have a truce, feel free to roam prison. I visit cell blocks, any "guards" attack me, I kill them, no one else reacts. I go up on guard towers, guards do nothing. Go in Admin building, inmate does nothing but a named guard attacks me, brings down the house on me. Seems to be no rhyme or reason to their reactions.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:56 pm

Chose the option to kill Cobb's gang & did so, however i only damaged the PG's and let the town folk finish them off this time. Just went to the prison right from leaving Goodsprings, dressed as powder ganger, and Dawes let me pass no problem.
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