As a long time supporter of TES games I must say I'm pretty disappointed with what I'm seeing so far. The market has been inundated with MMOs that all have a similar feel. A lot of us were looking forward to a TES game that would break the mould and offer us something new. The information revealed so far leads a lot of long time supporters feel like this game will be just like all the others.

If I understand things properly there will be no player housing. Ultima Online had player housing day one at launch.

Also, I am led to understand that the game is going to have hot bars. I realize that hotbars are functional UI components but its a bad start because the very fact hot bars exist is a big move away from the well received UI of the other TES games.

If you implement any type of theme park "collection" or "fedex" quests you will nail it as just another wow clone for me.

Teleportation is another thing you should consider allowing. Mark and Recall worked in UO and they worked in Morrowind. Obviously fast travel won't really work but limited teleportation is something other developers have shyed away from.

I'll be watching this game very closely for signs that it will be sandbox but you dam well better make sure that it feels like a TES game and it just isnt a TES game by title. A lot of us have played the same game over and over since WoW came onto the scene and a lot of us are tired of the same old mechanic. If you're listening to a group within your organization that suggests this type of rehashed mechanic will work for you I think you should toss them out now. I would say the player base will be exhausted from this play style mechanic and the player base that comes to your game looking for something brand new will be a lot more than niche.

I would encourage you to consider trying some things new in your mmo, some things that made your single player games truly unique and special. These aren't really all technical by nature, but things like being able to drop certain things on the ground, or picking up a bottle of wine. Take a good look at that book of things they've told us we can't do in MMOs and throw it out.

If this is another cookie cutter mmo then I would suggest that is a terrible, terrible idea.

Anyway, I know this sounds a bit negative but I do hold out hope that this game offers something truly new and in the spirit of the awesoem games you have made before. Good luck and a lot of us will be watching with hopeful eyes.

Forgive them! When they started with their game(2007) they weren't able to foresee that every Tom, dike and Harry is going to make their own MMO. They already invested about a ton of 10$ notes so its too late to throw everything away.

One thing that worrys me is how they treated player owned housing "Its too hard to put in an MMO" - When a fair few MMOs have this and it's pretty successful.

Makes me wonder what else was "too hard" so they ditched it.

No Lycanthropy or Vampirism either...

Player housing is easy to put in a MMO especially if it's instanced like EQ2 or LOTRO.Open world player housing like Vanguards is a bit more difficult but can be done well indeed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5lXH4PIxww

Also what's with the lack of first person view, is that "too hard" too ?

Exactly, there are too many excuses in that article, makes me worried about these people's skills to make a MMO, let alone a TES MMO. If it's too hard, hire the people who can.

Well-recieved UI in a Bethesda game

I did a double-take on this line too. I'm hoping it is one of the (many) things that got lost in translation in the article and things will cleared up as we get more details directly from Zenimax Online. I'm hoping anyways...

Dude, It has been like 3-4 days since it was announced...of course the Info isn't going to blow you away yet.

We know that, but in those 3 - 4 days it has shown no way of being similar to a TES game except the Lore (Which it ruins)

How so? I consider myself a bit of a Lore buff and I see nothing that breaks lore and merely a few things that stretch the imagination a bit. What is bothering you perse?

IMO I like a lot of what I have seen tbh. But I do not suffer from MMO fatigue and I like the artstyle.

So don't freaking play or follow the game FFS,go play TES,no one is forcing you to follow this game.Nothing you say or do is going to change the direction of this game,like it or lump it,the choice is yours but please for the love of god su and lets us who are prepared to give them a chance debate in piece.

I saw you critiscizing the game in another thread

Link the thread please,i'm calling you a liar.

I disagree, they are launching the game and trying to build some interest, so, the most amazing kind of information should be delivered right now...and maybe they did that already...soooo, if Im correct, things are going to get worse. Im not saying that we have all the details, but the most appealing aspects of the game probably are already know (sad isnt it?)

When is this going to stop?

1. People have a right to be here- it's a public forum. So long as people are being respectful and not inciting ad hominem attack (which you are dangerously close to doing), they can post.
2. He is a fan of the TES series, and this game is based on that series. Why wouldn't he want to talk about it?
3. Zenimax and Bethesda both want and need to know why people would be unhappy with the game- how else will they improve on their product? Companies PAY millions of dollars for this information. Marketing is a huge business and they want to market this game to TES fans. Knowing why he doesn't want to play is valuable information.

This one.

Thought as much lol,you are a liar.

Nice try though,now go and play TES and lets us debate about TESO.

I couldn't be happier. TES is heading in the direction it needed too. The days of the single player only are thankfully gone.

No, it is a trick to build hype. An announcement of an MMO stirred quite a few nests. They want speculation to begin. Then they drop more info so more informed speculation can begin. Then they drop some more. It is a rather simple but effective tactic. I wont be surprised if there are several interviews that basically repeat the same thing as the one before them. They don't want to give us a too much info and then abandon us with no more info, but they definitely wanted to get attention and they wanted to let the hype build up till people are screaming and then give out some more tidbits of info. You remember Skyrim's Marketing campaign? This will be similar.

Ok, I see your point, but I think they already released a bid deal of information: the basic gameplay, the factions and the setting of the game.

So, when you said "of course the Info isn't going to blow you away yet", I think you are mistaken. They tried to blow us away, but it didnt work for many of us. In my opinion,If you are not excite by now, probably theres no news on the future to change your feeling.

lmfao, desperation is desperation lol.

Do you know the difference from putting an idea across than complaining about something.

I'm still waiting for you to link the post where i'm criticizing the game,you haven't shown me yet.

Again, ill call you a liar but so this thread does not get closed you are welcome to PM me with the evidence.

Now can we get back to the topic and the TES forums are that way--------------> watch the door though,you don't want it to hit you on the way out.

Where is this Official Info coming from ? Show me .