http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2RPmjW-ZHo

Good job bro, you illustrated how magic can be useful. Nobody is saying "pure mage" svcks - they're referring to the destruction magic tree ALONE svcking. Which it does, ALONE. So does one-handed tree ALONE.

I'm One-Handed and Destruction.. working out fine for me..

*Whistles innocently*

I like the link to the side about how to get magicka free destruction spells. Call that underpowered, I dare you. XD

actually it wouldn't svck even if i was using destruction alone, since i can just "stun lock" enemies with the impact perk

Pure mages don't svck in this game just destruction. I however made an excellent character.

I want to make a mage like the one in the vid, what skills should I invest in? Conjuration and Destruction?

that was a battlemage with 100% destruction reduction and still took 10 shots to kill the dragon. did you see the video the warrior 1 hit a dragon?

My rogue can 1 shot mammoths...

No on is saying any of the other skills are under powered anyway. Just that destruction needs some form of scaling.

Nothing game breaking either, just some way to increase your damage output a bit at high levels so you do not feel like you are not hitting hard.

Yeah, the arguments aren't on pure mages, it's on destruction and its lack of damage scaling for itself or with enchanting/alchemy.

Yeah, because a "free" spell means the same as "increased damage" right?

Conjuration only. Some restoration, or enchanting or alchemy though.

You didn't show your level.


But nobody has argued that all magic is underpowered, just Destruction at high levels.

Guess what...I can swing my sword and unlimited amount of times too. It doesn't do me much good if it doesn't do hardly any damage.

In response to the OP, mages don't svck. Destruction svcks, and only because you have no way to improve it after your character gets to be about level 40ish. Then you get to spend the next 10 or so levels watching the rest of the world level up and your destruction stays exactly the same...effectively making it less powerful as time goes on until it finally gets to the point where its not worth using.

PS. Am I the only one who noticed that your destruction spell was doing almost no damage to that dragon in the video? The health bar was a little hard to see, but you were blasting away and getting almost no return. Good thing you had those other spells handy.

I'd say killing a dragon on master difficulty at level 42, is overpowered alone. One hit is just insanely overpowered.

That video kind of proves that with a proper playstyle (Moving around a lot, not getting hit, using all of your spells at the right times) you can be a very strong pure mage. I guess most of the haters will now come in complaining that you cannot be a pure destruction mage, to which we can all point and laugh since being a pure one-handed warrior is just as silly.

Yes, it's just boring then since you have no reason to use anything but Adept level attacks. Which is just tedious. Sure can use Incinerate instead, but my Altmer Atronach Archmage [@ 25] struggles to get two off before popping potions/racial.

Nice use of cheats there, guy. You expend all your mana in the first spell you cast, yet you're able to continuously keep casting more spells afterward without taking a potion or regenerating your mana.

I just noticed you were level 42, which means those were the strongest dragons/giants/mammoths you'll ever face in the game (soft level cap for enemies is 50, and they're always 5-10 levels above you, no more, no less).




Those aren't cheats, he has zero-cost magicka enchantments for destruction spells only.

Being a "pure" anything is just silly.

That being said, it's quite possible to get by with one-handed as your only combat skill. Same with two-handed, or even archery and conjuration. But the same cannot be said for destruction...at least not after level 40ish.

The complaint against destruction was never that you couldn't win with just destruction and nothing else. The complaint was that destruction, as a skill, becomes largely obsolete after level 40, and there is no way to improve it after that. It really svcks to spend all the time, energy and perks leveling a skill, only to top out 10 levels below the theoretical cap. Watching the worlds inhabitants get stronger while your destruction skill stays exactly the same (and by relative effect, gets weaker) is very frustrating, especially if your chosen play-style has depended on destruction for all of those hours.

All these threads are just asking for a very simple fix to see destruction scale in the same way as all other combat skills. It's very interesting to ask for such a simple fix, only to have so many people respond as though you've personally insulted them in some way.

You might be surprised to know that it isn't a cheat; at least not technically. There is actually a "feature" in the game that many are calling an "exploit" which allows for unlimited casting of a certain school with no mana cost. This would theoretically allow you to cast with your mana bar empty.

I think it has to do with enchanting.

This is about the only thing destruction has going for it, and it isn't much, considering how little damage it does at higher levels.

That's just stupid...I mean really. Pure mages have always been a playstyle.

In what way?

Actually a warrior with one handed as his only offensive skill works perfectly well.

Before you say shield and heavy armor, those are defensive skills not used to damage the enemy but to avoid damage.

A mage with destruction to damage the enemy and alteration and restoration as defensive and recovery skills won't do nearly as well as a warrior with his 3 skills.

What the eff are you people talking about? Destruction is extremely overpowered.

i watched my friend play on her level 14 mage and all she uses in the ENTIRE GAME is the beginning flame spell and beginning heal spell.. and she kills EVERYTHING.

sure she has the arch mage robes and stuff but nothing in the game can kill her or even visibly damage her and her magicka never drains...

Shes so OP shes becomming bored with the game, how on earth can you call it underpowred?