What role do you think tanks will have in PvP when there is no collision detection?

Can we expect to see formations? (tanks up front melee, healers, archers/mages)?

How can tanks that would like to protect cloth tank in PvP?

How can we avoid zerg and see tactical gameplay? (I think collison detection helped that somewhat in AoC)

Has no collision detection been confirmed?

I think they already confirmed that collision detection isn't in the game. Unfortunately that ruins the idea of formations as tanks can't actually keep people away from the priests/archers.

1. Crowd Control and...ta-ta-ta-tam...actually tanking without doing anything else but hitting enemy healers (I did that in Rift worked great*)

2. no, not without collision and standing in the way of projectiles

3. maybe with a skill that binds enemy's softlock on the tank, maybe with a skill that transfers taken damage from allies to them, maybe not at all.

4. by disallowing 99% of the community to play ESO


EDIT:
*well, silence and mana-leech of the void-knight helped a lot, so let's hope for a magicka/stamina leech skill.

Yup, and that makes it hard for tanks to fill another role than regular dps, but less.

This. But with 4, it's also important to have siege weapons be actually effective for the defender. GW2's WvWvW was ruined when they put damage limiters on siege weapons. Hit 30 people, damage 5, WTH?

Well, with the targeting system, you can still absorb hits by intercetping. Thus making tanking more interactive.

But that doesn't stop someone from running through you to hit the healer(s).

oh, of course it should be mentioned that any player character is able to play the full variety between glass cannon and full def tank.

so there is no need for mechanics that grant dedicated tank classes a right to exist in PvP

No collision detection?!?

Well this just made me less excited about the game.

Nice post!

Even though I would like collision detection 1. and 3. sounds interesting and would be exciting to see.

4. LOL! Another thing I like about formations, roles etc. is that it gives us players (who don't have the fastest reflexes) a way to do good and have fun in PvP.

Yes and no, with everybody being dps ( I am guessing plate will have less dps than cloth to balance it), how can we stop zerg and players choosing max dps?

You guys are trying to way over complicate what tanks can do. CD, formation, protection ect. On the PVP battle field a tank will do what a tank does.. absorb damage, if you are set up as a tank you will flat out have better survivability. You can jump right into the fight and have a better chance of living than non tanks. If you want a role it is what it has been. you go in first and draw enemy fire while the fragile damage dealers can flank or sit back and kill.

People need to stop comparing this to GW2 WvW it will not be like that, things are done vastly different, from combat to the map set up. if you want to compare it to something then comapre it to Darkage of Camelot as the map is teh same and combat mechanic is similiar using a stamina and magika bar resource instead of ability cooldowns