Question about the Ayleid.

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:41 am

Really simple question.

Why don't the Ayleid have a "Mer" suffix in their race name?
Every other known Elf race does.
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Jason King
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:27 pm

The Ayleids is the name for themselves in their own language, Ayleidoon. The name Ayleid became common place instead of the Altmeri equivalent which became common place with all the other Elven races.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:40 pm

The Ayleids is the name for themselves in their own language, Ayleidoon. The name Ayleid became common place instead of the Altmeri equivalent which became common place with all the other Elven races.

I wonder what the Dwemer called themselves. Probably something impossible like Kazwanachaznc's or something.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:32 am

The Ayleids is the name for themselves in their own language, Ayleidoon. The name Ayleid became common place instead of the Altmeri equivalent which became common place with all the other Elven races.

Ahhh fair enough then.

So were the Ayleid related to the other elves?
Just as all the elves are relatives?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:07 pm

I'm not sure, so someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think all Mer must be related somehow, though they would be very distant cousins, maybe even a different strain of et'ada altogether. Or they could be what the Raga's were to Nedes and such.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:49 am

They are only named that because they were referred to as that in the book "The Wild Elves", which appeared in Daggerfall. It was only during Redguard did they decide to make the Mer naming scheme.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:50 pm

I'm not sure, so someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think all Mer must be related somehow, though they would be very distant cousins, maybe even a different strain of et'ada altogether. Or they could be what the Raga's were to Nedes and such.
Not really. Ayleids are just the earliest Aldmeri settlers in Cyrodiil, which makes them more like a branch of Altmer than "distant cousins" - there's a reason they're called 'Heartland High Elves'. Of course they developed their own distinct culture over the years, like all the other elven races did, but they still come from the Aldmer.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:09 am

Makes sense, thanks for the clarifications. Ayleid has always sounded a bit like ''Alien'' to my hears.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:05 am

Makes sense, thanks for the clarifications. Ayleid has always sounded a bit like ''Alien'' to my hears.

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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:00 am



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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:41 am

As an added note, some of the Ayleid language survives in the Valenwood-Ayleid tongue (a Bosmeri language spoken in Valenwood that was influenced by the Ayleid language). The elven races are named as follows:

Boiche (Bosmer)
Moriche (Dunmer)
Salache (Altmer)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:21 am

I've seen the claim that those terms are Ayleid a couple of times, but the only book to mention them says no such thing. Source?

My assumption has always been that Ayleid doesn't translate into "____ ones," and hence doesn't follow the traditional pattern.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:04 am

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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:12 am

I've seen the claim that those terms are Ayleid a couple of times, but the only book to mention them says no such thing. Source?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ayleid_Language Fell for the [censored] trap.

Looking at it myself, it seems to be a inference on their part that its Ayleid, drawing on Ayleid ruin names. Looks like they got "math" as "home" from Mathmeldi, translated in Ayleid Inscriptions and their Translations, and then connected the word to the Ayleid dungeon Morimath, and then applied in The Wild Elves' translation of "Moriche" as "dark". And then got "dark home" as the translation of Morimath.

Honestly, though, it looks like they were just pre-Redguard fancy-lore-names for the Elves before they were retconned (as Morrowind's On Wild Elves shows) into the modern Dunmer, Altmer, Bosmer.
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