[Bonnie Clyde]

EDIT:

Thought I'd mark the occasion: this is my 6,000th post.

Cipscis

Off-topic. :calls for insta-ban:

I've had a similar experience and what cipscis describes should work

[JR Cash]

I want to open up Skyrim in the Creation Kit, so I open up the Cell View window, and all I can see is "Interiors" and "DefaultWorld" in the World Space list, the latter having the "All loaded" and "Wilderness" cells. Am I forgetting something?

[Hearts]

I want to open up Skyrim in the Creation Kit, so I open up the Cell View window, and all I can see is "Interiors" and "DefaultWorld" in the World Space list, the latter having the "All loaded" and "Wilderness" cells. Am I forgetting something?

File > Data > Skyrim.ESM. Skyrim.ESM has to be checked or it won't load.

[Albert Wesker]

File > Data > Skyrim.ESM. Skyrim.ESM has to be checked or it won't load.

Thanks!

[Epul Kedah]

If a mod does not add any forms, then you cannot use GetFormFromFile to detect whether it is loaded, correct? There is not some form that every .esp mod adds?

[Sarah Knight]

That's correct - it's entirely possible to create a plugin that adds no new forms.

Cipscis

[Matt Fletcher]

Can XMarkers be legitimate targets for spells? I'm trying this:

Scriptname PCKP_MEffscript_MagelightStorm extends activemagiceffect Spell Property Magelight autoStatic Property XMarker autoevent OnEffectStart(Actor T, Actor C)float h = Math.sqrt(2*(1280*1280))ObjectReference N = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)N.MoveTo(T, 0, 1280, 0)ObjectReference NE = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)NE.MoveTo(T, h, h, 0)ObjectReference NW = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)NW.MoveTo(T, -h, h, 0)ObjectReference S = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)S.MoveTo(T, 0, -1280, 0)ObjectReference SE = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)SE.MoveTo(T, h, -h, 0)ObjectReference SW= T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)SW.MoveTo(T, -h, -h, 0)ObjectReference E = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)E.MoveTo(T, 1280, 0, 0)ObjectReference W = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)W.MoveTo(T, -1280, 0, 0)Magelight.Cast(T, N)Magelight.Cast(T, NE)Magelight.Cast(T, NW)Magelight.Cast(T, E)Magelight.Cast(T, W)Magelight.Cast(T, SE)Magelight.Cast(T, SW)Magelight.Cast(T, S)N.disable()N.delete()NW.disable()NW.delete()W.disable()W.delete()SW.disable()SW.delete()S.disable()S.delete()SE.disable()SE.delete()E.disable()E.delete()NE.disable()NE.delete()endEvent

and all of them fire in a straight line, instead of out at different angles. Dunno why.

[Eliza Potter]

I am wondering if this script will only allow the player to use this object of mine...or if "Player Activation" accomplishes this for me already.

Scriptname rayPortalGoHome extends ObjectReference {Sends the player to the castle.}ObjectReference Property PortalDoor AutoEvent OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)If akActionRef == Game.GetPlayer()  PortalDoor.Activate(Game.GetPlayer())EndIfEndEvent

I have a portal spell that summons one end of the portal to the player which upon activation brings them to the stationary end located just outside my house. Followers can travel both ways but when moving to the summoned end of the portal the follower always needs to "chase down" the player. And by that I mean if it is in an interior they will that at the beginning of the cell and run to the player, as opposed to showing up at the portal location.

If you'd like any other script that's a part of this I can post those up too. Thanks for any info!

[Jose ordaz]

Can XMarkers be legitimate targets for spells? I'm trying this:

Scriptname PCKP_MEffscript_MagelightStorm extends activemagiceffectSpell Property Magelight autoStatic Property XMarker autoevent OnEffectStart(Actor T, Actor C)float h = Math.sqrt(2*(1280*1280))ObjectReference N = T.PlaceAtMe(XMarker, 1, true)N.MoveTo(T, 0, 1280, 0).....NE.delete()endEvent

and all of them fire in a straight line, instead of out at different angles. Dunno why.

moveto is latent? (And reportedly a bit slow?)

So, while a thread is off moving your stuff about I THINK the script can move on and fire off your spells (before some/all of your xmarker targets are in place?)



(That said, I've not tried casting spells at XMarkers, so a failure there could be your problem ... but I don't immediately see why that would not work?)

[Matthew Warren]

Moveto being latent would mean that it is not doing other stuff while it is movingto.

[lexy]

I am wondering if this script will only allow the player to use this object of mine...or if "Player Activation" accomplishes this for me already.

Scriptname rayPortalGoHome extends ObjectReference{Sends the player to the castle.}ObjectReference Property PortalDoor AutoEvent OnActivate(ObjectReference akActionRef)If akActionRef == Game.GetPlayer()  PortalDoor.Activate(Game.GetPlayer())EndIfEndEvent

I have a portal spell that summons one end of the portal to the player which upon activation brings them to the stationary end located just outside my house. Followers can travel both ways but when moving to the summoned end of the portal the follower always needs to "chase down" the player. And by that I mean if it is in an interior they will that at the beginning of the cell and run to the player, as opposed to showing up at the portal location.

If you'd like any other script that's a part of this I can post those up too. Thanks for any info!

It should work as you want it to.

[Jennifer Munroe]

Moveto being latent would mean that it is not doing other stuff while it is movingto.

kinda.

A latent function goes off into its own thread and does not return to the controlling thread/function until it is done. Which let's other threads/functions have a go at running while the former function/thread waits for a return.

I gotta add it appears your script would hold, while it waits for the return of the latents to shift the markers, but I couldn't hand-on-heart say it wouldn't start firing off the spells first.

Do the latents hold/pause the script from which they were called, or do they allow the script to continue while each latent spawns its own thread? I'm not clear about it when I read the wiki on threading (but maybe everyone else is clear? ... so might be best to ignore me )

I guess the shortest way to write what I just wrote is: Is a script a thread, or can scripts "own" multiple threads? I do not know ... http://www.creationkit.com/Threading_Notes_%28Papyrus%29



And I'll test firing a spell at an XMarker when I'm in the CK next ... If it does work it's something I coulduse anyway ...

[Kelvin]

My understanding of threads is basically that only the game engine can create threads, and it creates a new thread every time it calls an event on an object.

For example, take an object that has a script attached to it with an http://www.creationkit.com/OnActivate_-_ObjectReference event, and that event contains a call to a latent function like http://www.creationkit.com/Wait_-_Utility. I think this is the example used on that wiki page, right?

If the player activates the object, the game calls its OnActivate event and this starts a thread. If the player then activates the object again immediately, then the game creates another thread and the next OnActivate event is queued to be pushed onto the stack, but it doesn't actually get pushed yet because the previous thread has locked the object.

Once the first thread reaches the latent function, it goes of to wait for that to complete and unlocks the object. Here, the second thread can start running through the OnActivate event, and it'll lock the object again. If the first thread comes back from its latent function before the second thread has reached its own latent function, then the first thread's latent function will be queued to be popped from the stack.

Once the second thread has gone off to its latent function, the object is unlocked again and the first script can return to its thread, once its latent function has been popped off the stack. The object will then remain locked until either it encounters another external or latent function, or the event completes, at which point the thread ends.

Hopefully that clarifies things a bit, assuming my understanding of it all is accurate

Cipscis

[Robert Jr]

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Hopefully that clarifies things a bit, assuming my understanding of it all is accurate

Cipscis

kinda

Can the same Function continue to process subsequent events/lines-of-code after it has sent a latent-function away into it's own thread?

Or, at least, that's the bit that confuses me! So:

Event OnActivate()adhoc-line-of-code-1adhoc-line-of-code-2adhoc-line-of-code-3myObject.moveto(myplace)  ;<-------------- latentadhoc-line-of-code-4EndEvent

Can adhoc-line-of-code-4 be processed BEFORE

myObject.moveto(myplace)  ;<-------------- latent

has returned?


(that's the issue Ducey might have ... I think ... IF it is possible?)

[CORY]

I've had code that seemed to be doing that. I never nailed the problem down though, and eventually coded around it. I think I'm more inclined toward Cipcis' view of the mechanism.

What could be happening in Ducey's case is if moveto hands off to the game engine thread, and the engine puts the move onto a queue and returns. Then the moveto function returns very fast, the the actual movement doesn't happen for a few milliseconds, which is long enough for the spell targets to be locked in. The spell cast would probably get added to the same queue as the movement, but by that time the target vector has been set.

A Utilility.wait(0.1) before the first cast might work wonders. Or I could be completely wrong of course ...

[Lauren Dale]

Hi! Thanks for setting up this thread and taking the time to answer all of these questions.

My own question is, why would a prisoner NPC of mine appear on the wrong side of the jail bars in-game? He's placed behind them in-editor, and the door is locked.

[Stefanny Cardona]

Give him a defaultstayateditorlocation AI package. Should fix it. Otherwise they'll do that unfortunately.

[Brandon Bernardi]

Give him a defaultstayateditorlocation AI package. Should fix it. Otherwise they'll do that unfortunately.

That worked! Thanks, Ducey!

[Anna S]

Incidentally, I tried using a Utility.wait, and it didn't work. I'm starting to think magelight may not be castable in anything but a "default" direction.

[Jason Wolf]

Incidentally, I tried using a Utility.wait, and it didn't work. I'm starting to think magelight may not be castable in anything but a "default" direction.

Out of curiosity, have you tried it with editor placed markers? Like set up a test cell, place the markers and fire the magelights at them from a script.

Then we'd know for sure, at least.

[Tinkerbells]

Not sure if there's something else about this somewhere, but it's something I've had trouble with before..

I want to create a mod just for myself to use, using other mods that I've downloaded.

The trouble is that some of those mods require multiple master mods, which always causes an error of some kind. Because of this, I can't use all of the mods I want to use.

Can anyone help with this? I can provide more information if needed.

[Ruben Bernal]

Is there a way to reload all papyrus scripts via console command in-game? So that I don't have to restart the game every time I want to test my script.

[Ria dell]

Is there a way to reload all papyrus scripts via console command in-game? So that I don't have to restart the game every time I want to test my script.

If it's just one script, type "reloadscript yourscriptname" in the console. The Papyrus logs will say whether or not it reloaded successfully. Sometimes the game just crashes though (like when I try to use hot-loading plugins) so usually it's quicker to restart anyway.

[Flesh Tunnel]

I've built an animated NIF by basically slamming together blocks from other NIFs. The mesh appears in-game correctly, and it plays its animation one time. I don't know if the animation is named, and I don't know how to name it. That's probably an important part of my actual question.

What function can I use to play the animation in-game?

[Baylea Isaacs]

I've built an animated NIF by basically slamming together blocks from other NIFs. The mesh appears in-game correctly, and it plays its animation one time. I don't know if the animation is named, and I don't know how to name it. That's probably an important part of my actual question.

What function can I use to play the animation in-game?

http://www.creationkit.com/PlayAnimationAndWait_-_ObjectReference

Hunt around (links at bottom) for some others.


More stuff: http://www.creationkit.com/List_of_Animation_Variables and http://www.creationkit.com/Idle_Animations