There are some possibilites.


RAGE having Steamworks integrated (automatically mandatory)<<<<<< Worst possible case / Steamworks is used for crappy unfinished games and mostly non-high profile games when developers has no time/skills to make net code and all that stuff.
RAGE having Steam requirement for retail <<<<<< Bad idea
RAGE having friendly-DRM for retails and also Steam version for Steam only <<<<<<< Personally i would glady go for that.


What's the point of protectiona - everything gets nabbed the day it gets out - i don't see the reason why they waste time and money on it at all.


One random net guy that commented regarding BF3 origin requirement:



Don't make RAGE join the list.


Stupid developers still think it's the Bay that's the cause .... no, it's just those that would by the game, aren't buying it

You're right....HL2 is a [censored], unfinished, buggy, poorly written game lol Listen to yourself you're being silly

The development of Rage was completed in late September 2010.

They had more than a year to polish and test it. So hopefully not have problems like Bioshock 2 Bulletstorm you or made ??you want to burn the game and not to play so many technical problems that had to download it from Steam and try to log into your account "Games For Windows Live" and final will not work.

Id Software! Make no mistakes RAGE game please! No technical problems, bug graphics and no bugs!

If you want to go among the best games of the year should take my advice and try to rage for the 3 platforms without any error.

Thanks id.

And Portal too...so bad!

Anyways sarcasm aside, I don't mind steam stuff in the game.

Valve's games use Steam systems different .... they actually work - and they use dedicated servers. The implementation of other games using Steamworks is just wrong and it's badly coded that's why steam has errors with those games.

Plus . source engine is really outdated ... so kind of cracks with newer hardware (liquid physics lag bug in portal 2)

I agree that most games that use Games for Windows Live are to be ignored since that DRM is glitched and falls in infinite loops where you can't authenticate your game.

But I don't see why Securom is considered bad. If I remember correct Oblivion used Securom,and I've never had problems with Oblivion's DRM.

Games that are retail and need Steam to play in the other hand aren't the best choice,but I'd prefer that over Ubisoft style DRM or Games for Windows DRM.

Whats with some peoples irrational hate of Steam? did it [censored] your sister, or burn down your church?

its a platform for PC games, AAA and Indie, the sales should be more then enough to make anyone like it, but oh no DRM its [censored].

Have fun not playing about 99% games because they have DRM.

Get over yourself.

And what is some people's irrational love of Steam?

you're right it is a platform & the sales do sound nice (if only I had the bandwidth & could overlook the Steam EULA)

It's not about avoiding DRM but wanting a DRM that can work with the user. Steam does work for many & that's fine but it doesn't work for everyone (just talking legit users here) so the companies lose customers when they force everyone to use Steam via Steamworks)
to better understand you might want to check out...

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1205658-unofficial-steamdrm-thread/

Rage will be using Steamworks: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1219542-why-mr-willits-why/page__view__findpost__p__18321192

crosses Rage off my list of games to get

svcks for you, steam isn't going anywhere, all your doing is cheating yourself out of games.

Once again, get over yourself.

As long as i get modding tools - im okay.

But i want the heck to install the game into the folder i want and stop using this steam to set me where my games and saves go and other stuff.

If you use Steam to acquire the game you will be stuck with using Steam to run your Steam games.

I have no problem at all with this myself and have some 45 of em'. A very fine way to own games. There is no problem with re downloading the games onto any machine you might own and they are kind of eternal. Well until Valve goes away. They have said if that happens they will unlock all the games. No problem with a corrupted disc etc ... really the way to go.