Has anyone ever noticed that in skyrim its not very hard to become rich. I think there should be a little bit of a challenge to it. Instead of being rich by level ten. What does everyone else think of this. Also I don't really care that the game is like this, but it would be nice if there was a line between being rich or not.

I am at level 51 and I am not rich. I have had less than 28,000 gold septims the entire game. The time I had 28000 was hard work and that was just so I could buy a certain home. My character is a kleptomaniac who tends to hoard everything he crafts and steals. So, I don't really spend a lot of time selling anything. And I only got to the point where I could invest in shops a few levels ago.

Becoming rich may be easy if you focus on speech and do the thieves guild stuff really quickly, but it can be tough to make a living if you spend your gold on health potions and smithing goods regularly.

Actually, you can make a lot of money while dungeon crawling - selling everything that's dropped and you can't use.

My main character - level 43 - was at 200,000 gold about 4-5 levels ago, and that's when I stopped taking everything back, and now I only look for "cash" or gems.

I don't focus on speech - no perks/skill points, no investing in shops, etc. I sell stuff as I get it and for what the trader offers.

Also, on my level 33 character - who has well over 100,000 gold - I'm already dialing it back to gold and gems only - it's just way too easy to make money. But also time consuming.

Good luck.

Indeed, if one does a lot of selling items one can get very rich. I'd estimate my material holding at well over a million gold septims. But the fact remains that if you don't sell the stuff you find and you regularly spend money on even just a few ultimate health potions and a bunch of minor health potions, you can really keep the game honest and you won't have way too much money. And as a result I have a weapon at home for every possible need (although I only use my legendary skyforge steel war axe religiously).

There was a time when I began the lifestyle of traveling merchant, but that really didn't fit an extension of this character. So, I went back to hoarding everything. I could probably spend a week real time just going around selling all my items.

It's a bit lIke smithing and enchanting - you need to restrict yourself. Look at it from a role play perspective: there's no way your character would be able to carry 15 swords and 10 sets of armor, so don't loot that much!

As a thief I don't restrict my looting. I've worked hard to get my carry limit to what it is. Stamina is my strongest characteristic and my armor is more suited to heavy lifting than it is to heavy armor, although I do wear a full suit of dragon plate armor. When I made the choice to use less-than-the-best weapons I decided that having my armor rating really high would make the battles more even keel, and for the most part it's great. I don't get killed right away and my enemies don't get killed right away, even though I'm at level 51. If I use my super weapons (and I have many) I can walk right up to ancient dragons kill them without fear of dying. But I've found a good middle ground.

Anyway, as for carrying loot, I carry about 500 carry weight worth of loot at any given time, and I try to off load as much as possible at Honeyside whenever I am in Riften. The limitations I like are more about how long battles last. Longer, more difficult battles are more fun. IMO

Well, economics has never been Beth strong point. The ways things are going now, I wouldn't be surprise that by TES6 you'll get rich by the time you get out of the starter cave.

I haven't been rich on any of my 3 characters. It's not that I couldn't be if I wanted to go out of my way to sell tons of gear, make lots of potions, enchant many items, ect. I just choose not to go that route and play the game more naturally. I sell the loot I can carry out of dungeons and that gives me enough to buy new gear, get potions, buy alchemy reagents, buy houses, ect. Playing that way I find it to be fairly balanced.

Well since I made new character after the 1.04 patch I seem too be limiting myself somehow. I dont have the crazy amounts of jewelry and gems i would normally have. But atleast its not incredebly hard to become rich. That would be worse.

my character is a philanthropist. The little tree hugging bosmer do-gooder that he is.

You will become rich in all open RPG games unless they have very serious money sinks.

Pretty simple, you find lots of loot, almost all of it you either don't need as it's wrong for your class or is worse than the gear you have and you just need the best gear.
Elder scroll is worse than most because you can loot all an npc wear.

Now the game has shops but you will sell far more than you buy and the best gear you can only get by looting and the money piles up.

I have never made more than 30000 drakes in any TES game, EVER. It's called role-playing and not picking up everything I see.

Exactly. What sick [censored] barges into a cave, slaughters all of its inhabitants, then strips everybody naked? I at least only take all of their weapons if I'm that desperate for money.

Sorry, but Bethesda no longer do 'challenge' in their games.

lol but srsly.. only carry what you would realistically be able to carry, then amassing money becomes hard. When you sell 15 swords at a time you're gonna get rich.

To be rich quickly, one would be stripping every NPC naked, looting empty every container and picking up every single clutter in the game world, and probably going into a repeated loop of selling -> waiting 24 hours -> selling. That kind of gaming totally defies role-playing haha.

But to each their own I guess.

(Personally, if I want to get rich quick, I'd just pull up the console and type player.additem f 999999999)

Agreed. Really depends on how you play. I suppose you could get rick quick and easy if that was your goal, but none of my five characters has gotten rich yet. But I don't spend a lot of time "looting" and when I do, I only take really good loot (gold, jewelry, magic items) with a high value to weight ratio, I don't grind alchemy or enchanting to make money, and I spend what money I have on lots of stuff like training, food, drink, lodging, carriage rides (the only form of fast travel I use), upgrading my magic items (since most of my characters refuse to Enchant), etc.

90,000 septims and nothing to do with it.

I donate 30 percent of my profits to charity in Riften.

I must woosh myself and ask how do you do that lol.

Beggars, 1 gold at a time. Lol.

Theres a variety of economy mods out, but if you dont want to use those... just RP it a bit, or alternatively restrict yourself from putting too many points into Stamina(which has the plus side of also making combat a bit more challenging).

I'm never rich. Somehow I manage to spend everything on training, houses, potions...whatever. BUT I do wish that there were some really high priced, special items for sale from special vendors, that you had to work really hard to get money to buy them. In another of my favorite games, there are super expensive items like that.