So Railroads dooming Synths to extinction...

Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:36 pm

Seeing as synths cant procreate (as far as we know, i want baby with Curie now!) if you side with these Synth freedom fighters you essentially just prolonged synth extinction where as BoS would do the same but faster. The only 'good ending for Synths would seem to be staying with the institute and changing it from within.
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Matthew Warren
 
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:54 pm

I just don't see how perpetuating the synths is a moral responsibility of the Rail Road. They have no moral obligation to synths that don't yet exist, so why bother with even trying to perpetuate the "species"?


The only moral obligation the Rail Road sees (and rightly so) is to make sure that the synths that do exist are free from bondage or oppression. Perpetuating the synth species was never the goal.
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:36 pm

Ya, they have trouble protecting all the Synths they rescued so they blew up the machine that makes them so it stops spitting out more of them. It would just make their job harder than it already is.
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:48 pm

Thats the thing imagine if all the humans suddenly became infertile and we had to depend on cloning to "procreate" the species. Now imagine some asshat claiming to have your best interest at heart convinces you to wipe your memories and then blows up the one place making it possible for your race to continue?


Worse off by damaging the original memories and adding new ones they essentially turn an otherwise self aware individual capable of understanding its own actions into a ticking time bomb (see Libertalia) 1 Gen 3 Synth could decimate 10 BoS soldiers with ease. Under normal circumstances it'd have no reason to do so unless threatened or ordered to. Nothing short of a paladin or sentinel could take them 1 on 1. Ive seen a regular Course destroy a squadron of knights alone and dont get me started on X6-88's prowess. After a memory wipe anything could happen, that is dangerously careless and no different from letting super mutants free in the wastes. Railroad tampers with tech they dont understand.
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:21 pm

Making synths is almost universally perceived as wrong.Enslaving or hunting them down is not.The RR scope is giving synths that already exist a shot at a normal "life".

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:42 pm

they erase the Synths memories to protect them from the institute and the BoS and to protect their own identities from being compromised but after you break all the Synths out of the institute they stop the memory wipes and actively protect the Synths from people trying to kill them. So you can see why they wiped their memories, nobody could tell who was a Synth till they stopped wiping their memories so they never got kidnapped or killed because of it.


You can also tell they have not had their memories wiped after you free them from the institute because they recognize you as a member of the railroad and they know they are Synths.
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:29 am

I'm not seeing the point here. If humans became infertile then I'd still rather live free and let humanity die out as opposed to live in slavery but let the species continue. And besides, there's no evidence that you can change the Institute from within if you become the Director and several of the "good" companions will criticize you after the Institute ending and you'll have no dialogue option of reforming it. The Institute is too decentralized for one person to reform it, IMO.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:05 pm

They doom the entire world to extinction. Destroying the Institute instead of confiscating the technology delay a lot of progress the Institute had made, no more synth is made, so the synths are going into slow extinction, the pre-existing synth will eventually realize that they're synth since they can't age or have kids, they'd either be killed by the Commonwealth people if their identity is realized or live in hiding and wait until their mechanical parts break down. Destroying the BoS created a void in order, no one is there to defend against raiders, feral ghouls, and super mutants, the Minutemen didn't have the reputation of destroying the Institute, their numbers are not increasing like with the Minutemen ending, they can't defend every place at once. Worst yet, the BoS will be back to get revenge. The Institute foresees this, so they demonstrated their power to show that they can't mess with them. The RR can't do the same because they're a small group without any purpose beyond helping synth. It would eventually either lead to a war if they could put up a fight, creating more chaos, or a slaughter of the RR, which is the most likely outcome. The RR is the actual evil faction in this game.

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Post » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:27 am

Synths aren't human so why are they of any consolation regarding human extintion?

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:27 pm

um the network scanner downloaded their entire network any blueprints they had on their computers got downloaded by you so they have all institute technology they wrote down.
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:12 pm

Can't or won't?



It's more Bethesda's problem than then problem with your power as director. They didn't give you the option to even ask. It's the same with any other faction when you become their leader or high officers, you're still basically the errand boy. The Institute did try to work with the Commonwealth before, it was because the fault on both sides that caused the Institute to give up on the surface. If it was possible before, I don't see how it's not possible eventually.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:12 pm

Um, they can recreate all the tech in there? All the machines? All the biotechnology that take place over hundreds of years? And are you sure everything got download? All the unfinished projects? And that's not the only thing wrong with the RR ending.

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Post » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:21 am

If a bunch of geeks could do all of that starting with a basemant I don't see how the BoS would have any problem.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:55 am

ya unfinished projects would make them lag a few years behind the institute technologicly but eventually they would catch up and I don't see how having less technology would doom mankind unless you think the only way for us to survive is hiding underground like ants getting waited on hand and foot by Synths who do all our dirty work so we have no idea how to do anything for ourselves till they eventually figure out we don't know how to defend ourselves anymore and kill us all at once, great future you have planned
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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:04 pm

That's the BoS ending, not the RR and supposed that the BoS gets all the stuffs after they certainly destroyed the RR in the future, they have no reason to use it because their purpose is to confiscate and prevent technology from destroying mankind again. They may use it to improve their weapons, but I don't see anything beyond that.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:09 pm

You're making it as if that's the only thing I pointed that was wrong with the RR ending. Who catching up? RR has no reasons to really use it to help people. That's not their purpose. They're a suicidal group that will eventually get wipe up with any ending except the Minutemen.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:35 pm

Also,mankind is doing just fine in the Commonwealth.People might not be thriving,but they are not in the same awful condition of those poor souls in the Capital Wasteland in 2277.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:56 pm

Yeah I consider the Railroad ending something I will not ever consider choosing.But the BoS has proven to also take good care of the common folks.They might be a tad bit invasive.The only reason I don't like their ending is killing Deacon.

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Post » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:20 am

Maintaining, but the technology in itself can improve or possibly bring back the old world since the research itself can create old world animals like gorilla, radiation resistant crops, work force synth, if it's first or second generation synths then those hippies should have no problem. As I said, that's not the only problem with the RR ending. Any other ending is better, even the Institute. I like the Institute the best, but BoS and Minutemen are both good.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:21 pm

I never understood the fascination with bringing back the old world.A world so corrupt and spoiled in an almost comedic way.A world whose greatest achievements was armaggeddon.

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Post » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:30 am

the institute is the ones with no real future, the idea of freedom is not a weak one that can be stomped out by killing those who believe in it even if the railroad fails another group will take its place and than another because you cannot stop the freedom train it will run you over.
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Post » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:47 am

Another group to do what? The synth is going to a slow extinction already in the RR ending. Once they get wiped out by the BoS, there is no reason to form another group.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:34 pm

You're making it as if researching weapons and bombs are the purpose of the Institute or something. They're researching the biotechnology side with robot and biology, the BoS is the one who researches weapons and power armors.

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Post » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:44 pm

Yeah but as stated in game most of the Institute resources,3/4 divisions are dedicated to weapons production (Advanced systems).Killbots assembly (Robotics) and Killbots recovery (SRB).


The only mildly useful division,bioscience has only recently stopped being dedicated to the creation of super mutants.



Future of humanity my butt,if you ask me.The future of humanity should be someone you could look up to,not a shady organization hiding underground doing god knows what.



The BoS is also studying crops efficiency and medical tecniques for treating radiation threats.They also know their way around everything related to water purification on a large scale by now.

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Post » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:45 am

They're not researching bombs so saying it would lead to the another Armageddon is baseless. I could honestly care less about ethical like human research in a setting like Fallout 4. This thread is to talk about the RR, not whether the BoS or Institute ending is better.

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