I uninstalled DG because of the rampant attacks on towns, and related NPC deaths. Avoiding fast travel into towns didn't work, and vamps were attacking in the daytime as well. I have some questions.

1. Can I avoid towns completely throughout the DG questline, as a DG member? Or do any of the quests require me to visit towns? I have Lakeview Manor so I can store things there and avoid city homes.

2. Also, I've read that Markarth is the safest from vampire attacks? Has anyone noticed this to be true?

3. Will vampires attack cities on my other character files, even if those characters completely ignore the entire questline?

I'd really like to reinstall DG and complete it with my Cleric, who was created specifically for DG. Thanks in advance for any help.

I avoided all towns and cities during dawnguard unless I had to go there. I would save and then fast travel with a weapon drawn already. I was familer with that the vampires looked like and would rush up to them and kill any I saw before they could attack. I usually always came across "the Traveler" a lone master vampire.

Which leads me to wonder...

If I complete DG, and random attacks decrease in frequency, do they decrease across all of my character files?

I just don't want to deal with them.

They decrease only with the character which completed Dawnguard. As far as I know, attacks on cities stop completely unless you blot out the sun deliberately. I've also never been attacked in the wilderness by vampires anymore, although my vampire character, who has completed the main Dawnguard quest, keeps getting attacked by Dawnguards (since I haven't completed the misc quest on destroying the dawnguard).

Even after you have completed Dawnguard, if you are a vampire and go near a town in VL form you can cause an attack, so it is not just blotting out the sun that can cause them. Some radiant quests on the vampire side might also cause an attack, but that has not happened to my character yet. The only town you need to visit during the questline is Dragonbridge, the vampires will spawn a long way up the road you will have plenty of time to kill them before they get to the town. You insist on ignoring the attack or do not notice it, you will probably be responsible for the deaths of a fair few NPC's.

Once you have been warned about vampire attacks in the towns, ignoring them is only going to get NPC's killed, you have to keep on your guard and check each time you enter a town from either outside or from a building and be prepared to defend NPC's.

No, Markarth is not immune. I've had 4 attacks, 3 at the gates and one near the palace when I fast traveled there after midnight or exited my house after midnight. The only thing I haven't encounter is the Mysterious Traveler in Markarth. I've been trying to trigger him but so far no luck. I was at Chasing Echoes quest stage.

Just make sure you arrive during the day.

Over half my attacks were in the daytime xD

Made me wonder if they were debuffed in daytime attacks but I never tried to check it out. My attacks aren't quite as common as others.

Ive read about people reporting attacks
- Before level 10.
- In daytime
-After completing the Dawnguard questline.

I can only conclude that this is due to a bug, these things are not supposed to happen.
I guess I am lucky then as the above three things do not happen in my game.
Im sorry for the people that it does happen to, it must make the game a bit harder/ more annoying to play.

Daytime is the safest although you shouldn't need a workaround in the 1st place, terrible feature is terrible.

I had all my attack in whiterun occur during the day because that was the only time I entered. There is no reason to think this is a bug just because it is not working the way you think it should. Just like others here do not think vampire attacks on cities should be happening.

It has nothing to do with how I think it is supposed to work.
I am telling how it is supposed to work.

I am telling you how it works in my game and the game of every other non-bugged person, in all our playthroughs since the release of Dawnguard.

I don't think I've been attacked before level 10, but I've had the other two.

I've actually had a decent amount of bugs in my game so I wouldn't doubt that they're bugs.

How in the world do you know how it is supposed to work? Did you write the code? Are you with Bethesda? Just because you haven't had an attack during the day doesn't mean the code has forecluded it.

Look, I dont have to work at Bethesda and I dont even have to play Dawnguard on the pc to gain an understanding of how this is coded.
All this information can be found right here on this forum if you take some care to look for it. People do play this on PC you know and they have access to the creation kit.

The script associated with random vampire attacks is supposed to activate:

-After level 10.
-After at least five days have passed (This is true for each concurrent vampire attack)
-At night time.

It is supposed to stop alltogether:

-After the main Dawnguard questline.

So you can harp your unbelieving harp all you like but please do quit being so annoying when I am here trying to help people with genuine advice on how to avoid vampire attacks, namely by the methods I have detailed above.

They work.
Just follow the simple little rule of not arriving via fast travel at night and most the worries should be eliminated.
End of.

They would work with the exception of bugs xD

And honestly there are a quite of few people bugged

And they say it's difficult to patch DLC

Not good news really lol




If it really is difficult, this is the kind of thing they need to make almost perfect before release.

most simple solution is to quicksave each time you leave a bulding in a town or just before you enter the town or vicinity of that town , if i remember correctly they have a 1 in 4 chance of happening during the DG campaign each time you leave a building enter a town or enter the cell where the town or village is

I can tell you that Markarth certainly isn't the "safest" city as most of my NPC's were slaughtered there. Markarth and Riften are always the worst for me with every char I play.

The attacks did get a lot less after finishing the questline for one character, second char they just continued full force and with a third they stopped altogether. First char was Dawnguard side and the last two joined vampires. The second char even gets attacked just outside his house by DG-members weeks in game time after finishing off the DG.

I have indeed NOT had any attacks during the day or before level 10 so Merari is correct, it's just that there is a glitch where the attacks go on after finishing DG. I do wonder why some of my chars are affected and others aren't. The only thing I can think of is that with the char that doesn't get any more attacks I immediately started Dawnguard when it popped up in my quest log.

No one ever said completing the Dawnguard questline was going to stop the Dawnguard attacking vampires, it is only the vampire attacks on walled towns that should stop. And you can still cause attacks on towns by blocking the sun or using your VL form near a town.

Did you actually get any vampire attacks on towns after finishing Dawnguard?

One of my characters had plenty of attacks during the day, the other only a few before heading for Fort Dawnguard and later becoming a vampire. It might depend on what frequency of attacks you are going to get. A high frequency you get attacked no matter what time of the day it is.

I've never had vampires attack towns in broad daylight (or even at night) after I'd completed Dawnguard on the Dawnguard side - they only appear if I blot out the sun, and even then it's luck (travel to a town and reload until you get them). Having said that, today I found Jon Battle-Born scurrying around Whiterun and cringing.. so I took a look around and found Bergitte Battle-Born lying dead in front of her house, and everyone in a panic. No sign of any vampire or other corpses, though. Doesn't look like a vampire attack, but I wonder what got her.

Thanks for all of the replies everyone!

1. So if I blaze through DG as a member of the DG, and finish the questline, should I expect random vampire attacks on towns with my other characters that DON'T do DG? That's my other big concern.

2. And do those characters, even if they avoid DG completely, still find DG items in the world? Like Crossbows, Vampire Armors, and the ability to smith Dragon armor and weapons?

1. Completing the DG questline with one character shouldn't affect your other characters at all. I think each savegame will store its own quest flags. Your other characters which did not complete DG will be subject to the random vampire attacks, in the same way that your other characters which did not start the MQ will not get random dragon attacks.

2. You can get Crossbows from Fort Dawnguard even if you don't start the quest, I think. Just enter, and pick up the crossbows and bolts lying about. They respawn after a while. Not sure if you'll get a Journal entry walking to the Fort and getting spoken to by the DG members patrolling outside, though, but there are definitely at least 3-4 crossbows lying about in the Fort, as well as the DG Warhammers and War Axes, and even a light helmet (not sure about the rest of the armour). After installing DG, all regular Vampires will wear Vampire Armour or Vampire Robes + Boots, so you will be able to farm those easily. Not sure you can get the Gloves, though (and of course, you won't get the unique stuff). Dragon Armour and Weapons are available even within the vanilla game.

Thanks.

I really hate to be the umpteenth person to whine about it, but it's not fair that every character should suffer the attacks simply because the DLC is installed.

In that case, I guess I'll leave the DLC uninstalled. It's really disappointing because I was really enjoying some of the gear. IMO Beth missed the mark with this one.

Well how else would you get to play the DLC with multiple characters? You are not just downloading the DLC to only play it once and then it expires.

My opinion is that downloading the DLC shouldn't automatically initiate random vampire attacks on every character file. Why should every character file suffer it? I would have liked it better if a character actually starts DG, and then on that file the random attacks happen. Beth changes how my game is played by just blanketing every file with random vampire attacks.

My other six characters shouldn't have to micromanage fast traveling to certain locations at certain times of day all the time because DLC is installed.