raven rock and the imperial fort.

Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:55 am

ok so I was wondering and part of this came about when I saw the blacksmith sign in a pic of raven rock and thought if I could invest in shops in dragonborn. but in oblivion we hear how raven rock ran out of money(they obviously found a way to get more) but if there is a way we can invest in and improve raven rock in any way. I also wonder what the imperial fort(cant remember the name) fort frost something maybe? what ever is what will effect wiill that have on things. also I was thinking you kow it has been over 200 years and there are alot of elves there now so did they make any new towns? cause 200 years is a long time to not build anything new. unless the dark elfs are all a bunch of bums.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:03 am

LOL!

I would imagine Solstheim has changed considerably over the 200 years of game time between bloodmoon and skyrim. The dunmer influence will likely be pronounced, but you would think they would be making efforts to have good relations with the local nords/Skaal - after all, it was the Nords who offered the Dunmer refuge after the destruction of their homeland.

I would be distressed if the Dunmer were hostile to their Skaal neighbors and were more concerned with re-establishing their ability to project power in Tamriel instead of focusing on rebuilding their society and forming long term, positive bonds with the Nords in both Solstheim and Skyrim.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:42 am

Raven Rock as a colony did indeed fall on economic hard times. It would seem that after Solstheim was given to the Dunmer refugees, they turned Raven Rock into their main settlement (which makes sense). Whether or not it's still called that is anyone's guess though.

As for Fort Frostmoth, it looks like its still there and in surprisingly good shape (judging by the extremely brief glimpse you get in the trailer).
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:56 pm

Raven Rock as a colony did indeed fall on economic hard times. It would seem that after Solstheim was given to the Dunmer refugees, they turned Raven Rock into their main settlement (which makes sense). Whether or not it's still called that is anyone's guess though.

As for Fort Frostmoth, it looks like its still there and in surprisingly good shape (judging by the extremely brief glimpse you get in the trailer).

1. It is still called Raven Rock, and has been identified as such on gamesas's http://gamesas.com/en-us/games/dragonborn.

2. Where in the trailer did you see Fort Frostmoth? I've watched it several times and haven't seen anything conclusive.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:49 pm

Hopefully they do a similar thing to what happened to the Raven Rock of Bloodmoon with Winterhold city. Invest some money and have someone build it up into a reasonable location
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:50 pm

raven rock ran out of funding and was abandoned, why the hell is it a working settlement in DB?
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:15 pm

raven rock ran out of funding and was abandoned, why the hell is it a working settlement in DB?

Maybe the Dunmer reused the buildings
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:06 pm

raven rock ran out of funding and was abandoned, why the hell is it a working settlement in DB?

Because the Dunmer moved in.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:01 pm

Because the Dunmer moved in.

And they got the money from where?
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:47 am

As for Fort Frostmoth, it looks like its still there and in surprisingly good shape (judging by the extremely brief glimpse you get in the trailer).

The only glimpse we see of a fort is a ruined fort within the ash wastes of southern Solstheim.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:08 pm

And they got the money from where?

They didn't need money. They found an abandoned colony and set up shop until building their own homes and structures.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:37 pm

They didn't need money. They found an abandoned colony and set up shop until building their own homes and structures.

I see
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:16 am

raven rock ran out of funding and was abandoned, why the hell is it a working settlement in DB?
Because the Dunmer moved in.

Decent query and equally decent answer. As to why?
- Perhaps the Northwestern Dunmer from Gnisis, Ald Velothi and Khuul fled the fallout from Red Mountain and resettled.
- Perhaps the Ashland Dunmer of Maar Gan and Ald'ruhn fled to the coastal settlements...who's inhabitants told them to keep moving, no room at the inn.
- Or perhaps, just perhaps, they are the offspring of workers hired by the original Factor. The mine closed but the workers stayed and made it their own.

Whatever the reason I'll download and enjoy. It really doesn't matter.
And if it isn't explained in the dlc I'm free to imagine whatever scenario I feel makes the most sense.
Through my characters I'll get to revisit Solstheim. Changed though it may be, I still look forward to the journey.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:35 am

It's important to remember that after the events of the Red Year, in which Vivec City got Destroyed and Red Mountain erupted, many Dunmer from Vvardenfell had to flee. The Nord Jarls in a unusual sign of compassion gave them free access to Solstheim.

Now the Raven Rock that we know of from Bloodmoon did indeed tank and go under due to the ebony mines running dry. But that happened in the late 3rd era, and moving into a old settlement is easier than constructing a new one.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Yea in the end it is still there and the fact that we don't know wht the money ran out to begin with. But I was just wondering with if raven rock was their only settlement cause after a considerable amount of refugees move there after red mountain you think that in a 200 year time span they would have to build more that one settlement. Well we don't have to wait to long to find out.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:15 am

Yea in the end it is still there and the fact that we don't know wht the money ran out to begin with. But I was just wondering with if raven rock was their only settlement cause after a considerable amount of refugees move there after red mountain you think that in a 200 year time span they would have to build more that one settlement. Well we don't have to wait to long to find out.

only a small island, maybe fort frostmoth, thirsk and castle karstaag have been taken over. I highly doubt the Skaal will cater to foreigners
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:54 pm

The skaal never had a lot of people there and against a horde of dunmer refugees what could they do.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:47 pm

The skaal never had a lot of people there and against a horde of dunmer refugees what could they do.

But why would the Dunmer have reason to harm them?

I am saying that the Skaal would probably understand the situation and tolerate thheir prescence but not let any of them live in their village
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:33 am

O I thought you were saying that they would not let them build new settlements.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:39 pm

Goblins like to move into abandoned places.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:53 am



And they got the money from where?

They don't need money like the Imperials did as they are using it as a home and not a place for financial gain. The Dunmer town isn't built around a foreign workforce who require an income and a mine and shipping industry requiring upkeep and legionary protection.

Once the mine dried up, there was no source of incone, the work force would move onto another place of work or return home and without the mine there is no need for the legions protection on the site. The town was left for ruin until the Nords loaned the island to the Dunmer.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:54 pm

I wouldn't be suprised if Fort Frostmoth was abandoned. The only interest the Imperials had in the island was the ebony deposits that Raven Rock was built around, so once they ran out I don't see any reasons that the Imperials would both paying for the upkeep of a fort there.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:21 pm

Raven Rock the EEC mine colony ran out of funding. Meaning no mining.
The place Raven Rock still exists and as far as we've seen has been used as a Dunmer refugee point, but the mine will be abandoned (possibly dungeon location? :wink: ).
As for Fort Frostmoth, I think only remnants of it's walls will be left, with another Dunmer settlement inside it.
The Telvanni towers in the trailer seem to be strong enough evidence that there will be new places built, since they clearly where not there in Bloodmoon.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:11 pm

http://content.gamesas.com/bsw_cms_asset/28077_2_1.jpg

There's a fort there, Solstheim had no other forts, so it's either Frostmoth or a new one built after the events of Bloodmoon.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:54 pm

http://content.gamesas.com/bsw_cms_asset/28077_2_1.jpg

There's a fort there, Solstheim had no other forts, so it's either Frostmoth or a new one built after the events of Bloodmoon.

Will most likley be frostmoth, it looks like frostmoth, it even has the little grove of trees leading up to it

As for Fort Frostmoth, I think only remnants of it's walls will be left, with another Dunmer settlement inside it.
The Telvanni towers in the trailer seem to be strong enough evidence that there will be new places built, since they clearly where not there in Bloodmoon.

Maybe the imperials got lazy after the WW attack and when talking about rebuilding they just went "screw it" :P
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