You forgot: Serious lack of interesting spell effects (so many were removed) and the fact that Destruction is the worst it's ever been in any TES game. It doesn't scale at all.

I hope you aren't serious with #2.

There is no way that skyrim is worse

Don't do drugs

The racial diversity thing is off, because some attention to details and lore will tell you why some races are rare. Argonians are pretty obvious, they are reptiles and Skyrim is very cold, the two don't go together very well. In the past Argonians were also all called back to the Black Marshes and later they started a big war. So not only have their populations throughout Tamriel been thinned out greatly by this recall, but they also pissed off a lot of people with their war enhancing existing racial tensions against them making it much less likely for the Argonians to leave the Black Marshes.

Khajit and Redguards both come from desert environments making them less likely to visit Skyrim. It is my understanding that Hammerfell was also conquered by the Altmeri Dominion, so most of you Redguards are probably locked down and not allowed to leave the oppression the Dominion place on their homeland, and many Redguard are almost certainly trying to fight a rebellion against the Dominion as well.

Wood Elves, I'm not certain about them, but I've heard some more lore savvy people claim that they are also pretty seriously oppressed by the Altmeri Dominion as well.

Nord, Bretons, and Imperials aren't rare at all.

And if you can't figure out why the numbers of the High Elves from the Tropical Summerset Isle, and rulers of the Altmeri Dominion aren't all that common in Skyrim, well that is your problem.

There's is only one thing that OB did better... Spellmaking. And that will be modded as soon as the CK is released. Other than that, Skyrim is vastly superior in every conceivable way.

There is a lot of nitpicking here on tiny details. The "Customization was better in Oblivion" thing is hilarious. More options =/= better. The models in Skyrim are far and away better than anything you could produce in Oblivion without mods.

These are mostly mods, buddy. Skyrim will have a CK, too.

Have you played Daggerfall? No fair using the "It's an older game" excuse because you're comparing new games to older games already.

Daggerfall was by far the worst of TES games. I could list 100 reasons =p

I'm sorry for your frustration during the quest but the races are presented appropriately. The khajiit merchants, redguard mercenaries, haven't found any argonians, but why the hell would I? This is Skyrim, its not a melting pot like Cyrodiil is.

Thank you, agreed.


Not what was said. Next time read what others write and try to understand it. Oblivion's customization is not better than Skyrims. But Skyrim's customization falls short. No age slider, no hair length slider, no hair customization [I like to add to the primary normal hairs]. Skyrim just ask you to fix a bunch of presets and I prefered Oblivion's in the sense that I was able to control more. I was able to morph the face. I run on the console. To me the faces are all to smashed in their profiles. I'd love to stretch the face out, etc. Even the Khajit look less cat like with their faces so smooshed in. I wish Skyrim would have brought more to the table is what I am saying.

11. More lines of dialogue per person. Increasing the voice actors but lessening what they can say leads to the same if not a much worse level of repeatativeness.

12. Probally caused by the above but few choices in dealing with anything and when you do it usually has no effect what so every so whatever you do pick doesn't matter.

13. Above again, react to that thing I done for you for crying out loud, no there are no more ghosts there you moron, I told you already.

14. Gaining skills meaning nout, things that should be given are shoved into perks, more so perk trees are mixed so your forced to spend points on things you don't want for things you do.

15. Less intelligent perks in general, Allure being only for the opposite six? for 10% increase. At least fallout had the opposite to pick too, and it gave you more dialogue. How about actually taking your cumlative knowlegde for once instead of constantly making 1 step forward 2 steps back.

16. Random events are seemingly free to happen almost anywhere and in any number frequently messing themselves up. Oblivion's highwaymen almost never died before you could experience being robbed.

17. If you want to delay the main story in favour of exploration you lose out by not having the whirlwind sprint ability to access certain secrets in dungeons. Delaying delivery of the amulet or kvatch caused no such issue, you could fully explore any dungeon.

18. Most NPC's seem far weaker then they where in oblivion, even those that are meant to be fighters will die so fast, so much for the hardy nord people.

10: Kinda agree with that one.

9: I have done The Companions and quite a bit of the College and I have to say that I feel they are more accurate for how a Mercenary(however honorful they are they are still mercenaries. Same goes for the Fighters Guild) band and a Guild devoted to magical studies would opperate. In OB both the MG and the FG seemed like they were going to save the world(OB was still a great game though).

8: Sorta sad it is gone, but seeing as most spells is still avaivable I'm not too sad.

7: Skyrim is a Nord land with strongrooted racism and political conflicts. Makes sense and adds to the immersion IMO. Still, a little more diversity would be welcome.

6: A bit overdone perhaps.

5&4: They are gone so one would not worry about leveling too fast on non-combat skills. A necessity with the new system.

3: Have you faced an Elder Dragon? They are likely too kivk my level 43 Crusader ass even on normal since the two-hit me in melee if I do not heal. And they are only the second highest ranking non-unique dragon.

2: I'm kinda neutral on the spell-making thing, but I see how it might gimp some players. I also see how it can be exploited.

1: Okaay...?

No for its era Daggerfall was brilliant, Skyrim for its time is not as good. Compare them and their prospective time frames, games were way different back then.

The only thing I miss is custom spellmaking.

Everything else is MUCH MUCH improved.

Believe it or not, I feel the UI is better in Oblivion. All of it.

10. Jumping and swinging is unrealistic and I don't ever do it anyway so this is not a negative for me.

9. Fighters and Mages guilds were getting worn out and I welcome a change of pace/name.

8. Mysticism is for monks. Another one of those skills that I never used so again, I do not care if it is gone.

7. Cats and lizards do not like cold weather. I have seen plenty of Redguards.

6. It takes a fall of only 30 feet for the average human to reach terminal velocity. Your judgment of distances was probably off.

5&4. Athletics and Acrobatics were cake skills. Good riddance.

3. I'll give you this one.

2. I have never played as a pure mage but how many spells do you really need? Ice, fire, electricity. Death, death, death.

1. This argument is invalid because Oblivion did not launch with the construction set either.

I think Skyrim only lacks 2 major things that Oblivion had.

1:
^, I tried to make an ingame version of myself as first character, but it was pretty much impossible. Whereas in Oblivion it was possible, after 2 hours of trying.

2:
The 3 day reset rate on dungeons and outside mobs, I love just travelling roads so this left me pretty dissapointed in Skyrim. But nothing mods can't fix.

Some of this is was funny yet true.
This one made me laugh
3.Flying to new lows.
Dragons! [censored] yea! Oh wait, uhmm........only 3 swings from my ebony battle axe and a dual casted ice storm killed you? Heh, giants are more of a challenge, now I know why you went extinct.

People not seeing mudcrabs and discussing them with strangers anymore

I challenge you to go grab a large stick and do the oblivion jump swing method. You look like a tard as well as it is far from practical in any kind of a fight. "Shall I waste my stamina jumpin and swing or shall I just swing and not open myself up to free attacks"

have you done any of the thieves guild or dark brotherhood quests?

Frenzy/calm not good enough? mysticism was a weak school of magic in oblivion more just gimmicky LOLOLOL spells


Agree

I never had an issue with falling killing me and in oblivion with acrobatics you would be able to fall insanely far without dying which was also kinda lame IMO.

I always felt those were gimmicky nonsense, I feel that track and field should not be part of my RPG chop your head off gaming experience.

I would LOVE to see this, everyone talks about how they 2-5 shot dragons with awesome weapons but I have yet to see any proof other than "LOL I DID IT"

I always felt the spell creation was lame, because you would put a 1 second debuff on the target and follow it up with some nuke making your spell exponentially strong while only adding a tiny cost to it.


it's coming.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm oddly glad to see Spellmaking gone. I must now pinch myself and see if I'm awake.

I actually thought the "Thieves Guild" quests were the coolest. Especially the final quest. It took a few hours to get through and shooting the "key" tipped arrow into the statue was pretty cool.

I like Skyrim a little better overall so far. But some things I really dislike compared with Oblivion, in no particular order:

1) Can't name potions anymore. Why? I made what I really want to be a Fortify Health potion, only to find the game decides to call it Fortify Block because both ingredients also had that effect and I guess the effect was more powerful. But that's silly, because I made the potions for health, not block. I now have to remember that when looking through my inventory, and also make sure to study the effects of any spell I select before drinking it. I should be able to name the potion whatever I want, like Oblivion, so I can see at a quick glance the purpose I made it for.

2) Can't sort inventory by weight or value. Alphabetical, that's it. Also there is no type of "list view" where you can see the values and weights of items at the same time for comparison. So if I'm over encumbered for example, I cannot quickly sort my inventory to see what' weighing me down the most and compare the value. I have no choice but to highlight select every single item individually to see its weight and value. Major step backwards for user friendliness and practicality IMO.

3) Vendors now have a truly limited supply of gold, rather than the max gold amount being the most they could pay for a single transaction. Yes, I know that is more realistic, but I don't feel it adds anything positive to the game. In a town where only one vendor will buy some expensive items you have? Welp, sell one or two - then WAIT two or three days - sell another one or two - rinse and repeat. Alternatively I guess you could fast travel to 4 or 5 different towns to sell off your loot, but that's just as annoying and time consuming. Not much of a fun factor as far as I'm concerned. I guess if you don't like this you're supposed to waste a bunch of perks on Speech so any vendor will buy any type of item. Bah....

4) I hate the blinding effect that happens after a dragon breathes fire on you at night. My guess here is that the developers were going for realism, because it makes sense that if your eyes had already adjusted to the darkness and a bright fire fills up your vision, there would be a blinding effect afterwards. However, I don't think this needs to be in the game. Why should I be penalized because it is night outside? Is it not enough that it is much harder to see the silhouette of the dragon in the sky? I don't need my vision to go completely black for 4 seconds every time it breathes fire in my face.

5) I'm a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure in Oblivion you could set a custom marker on the map at your current location. So if you came across something that wasn't a preset marker on the map, and wanted to be able to find it later, you could set a custom marker right where you're at. In Skyrim I was wondering around and found a gold mine in the middle of nowhere. I didn't have a pick axe. I thought "No problem. I'll just set a custom marker here on the map, fast travel back to town to get my pick axe, then fast travel to the nearest discovered location to my custom marker and walk right back here." But nooooo, that isn't possible. Your option to set a custom marker doesn't pop up until you're a fair distance away from your current location. So I had to set the marker as close as I could to where I really wanted it, and when I got back to the area I had to use my map to navigate where the real spot I wanted to mark was in relation to the actual marker. Ridiculous...took me like 5 extra minutes for no good reason.