Regarding the Khajiit ... : V

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:22 am

They are being called "cats" or "cat people" ... but I cannot remember having seen a single actual cat in the three TES games I played. (Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim.) Maybe they live in other provinces? If not, how would folks know what a cat is to call the Khajiit that?

I know there are sabertooth tigers and these do technically belong to the cat family/race/species/whatever, but still ... kind of weird.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:05 pm

They are being called "cats" or "cat people" ... but I cannot remember having seen a single actual cat in the three TES games I played. (Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim.) Maybe they live in other provinces? If not, how would folks know what a cat is to call the Khajiit that?

I know there are sabertooth tigers and these do technically belong to the cat family/race/species/whatever, but still ... kind of weird.

There were mountain lions in Oblivion. And Daggerfall had cats. You couldn't interact with them but they were there.

Also there's a species of Khajiit that looks just like a House cat (walks on four legs) except it can understand speech but do not talk. Check the UESP.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:24 pm

They are being called "cats" or "cat people" ... but I cannot remember having seen a single actual cat in the three TES games I played. (Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim.) Maybe they live in other provinces? If not, how would folks know what a cat is to call the Khajiit that?

I know there are sabertooth tigers and these do technically belong to the cat family/race/species/whatever, but still ... kind of weird.

There's a sub-specie of Khajiit which looks just like our housecats.

They can understand other people, but cannot speak.

So, there are normal cats on Nirn. They can only be found in Elsweyr, tho.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:30 pm

So... is there evolution in Skyrim?

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:47 pm

Umm... Cats predate Khajiit. In fact, the non-khajiit, non-mystical explanation for the origin of the Khajiit is that they are descended from the great cats of Elsweyr.

Also, Arena and Daggerfall have Housecats, and they're quite noisy.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:56 pm

Khajiit is ascended from a feral cat, not some house cat

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:42 am

Cat = cat, seen plenty, /thread ...
No real world house kitties, they dont fit in tamriel

There ARE house kitties in Tamriel :rolleyes:

Khajiit come in various forms, and the form which any Khajiit takes when he is born is determined by the moons.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:16 am

Daggerfall takes place in the High Rock and Hammerfell region of Tamriel and there are plenty of house-cats in that game.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:07 am

Also... some of the nobles in Daggerfall have pet Sabre-toothed tigers, and often have to hire the Fighter's Guild to get them back when the kitty decides to go dungeon-delving. Nobles can be very silly people.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:29 am

There's a sub-specie of Khajiit which looks just like our housecats.

They can understand other people, but cannot speak.

So, there are normal cats on Nirn. They can only be found in Elsweyr, tho.

That was the "Alfiq" race of Khajiits. They look like housecats and are capable of using magic if i remember correctly.

There ARE house kitties in Tamriel :rolleyes:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/Desert-Rat/Skyrim/MeowSkyrim64.jpg

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:38 pm

Here you go.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4306/ss20110505202853.png

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:40 pm

In fantasy universes, you can generally just assume that most if not all of our real-world animals exist in addition to the fantasy creatures. It's just that, in modern games, adding new species takes work, and the devs typically aren't going to add a new type of animal if they're not actually going to be used for anything.

So... is there evolution in Skyrim?

Science exists in TES, but, much like in the real world, much is not set in stone. The previously suggested origin of the Khajiit is nothing more than a possibility; we're also not too sure about the afterlife, the gods, etc.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:05 am

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/Desert-Rat/Skyrim/MeowSkyrim64.jpg

Haha wow, how long did it take to create that?

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:14 pm

Haha wow, how long did it take to create that?

Oh not really that long if you have a Cat at home

I already used this Character in Oblivion

But since i have a Nifskope which can handle the Nif files from Skyrim i am always improving it.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:43 am

Ah, good to know. And see, lol. And now that you mention it, I do remember about the "cat" Khajitt subspecies, don't know why I forgot that.

Anyways, thanks for the replies.

» Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:21 am

There are 20 subspecies of Khajiit, which is why Elsweyr needs full game treatment.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:38 pm

There are 20 subspecies of Khajiit, which is why Elsweyr needs full game treatment.

Yes. At the very least, the next game needs more than one species of Khajiit even if it's not in Elsewyr.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:22 pm

I'll tell what's weird a creature with FUR wearing FUR armour and telling another creature with FUR that it's going to make it into a fine rug.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:09 pm

Yes. At the very least, the next game needs more than one species of Khajiit even if it's not in Elsewyr.

I think one of each race is more then enough. And i allso think that would be too much work for them. Also the Khajiit mostly look the same, except for the Pahmer and Alfiq

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:21 pm

Some interesting reading about them:
Quoted from http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Khajiit

Khajiit are one of the humanoid races which inhabit the continent of Tamriel, primarily their home province of Elsweyr. They are one of the ten default playable races, and are known for their natural agility and stealth. They are also the master race.
ReligionEdit

The Khajiiti religion, while quite different from that of the men or mer, is still clearly derived from the old Aldmeri pantheon. The Khajiit creation myth includes references to powerful ancestor cats with strikingly familiar names. Their legends start with the original litter mates, Ahnurr and Fadomai (Anu and Padomai). These two gave birth to all of the great spiritual children, including Alkosh the first cat (Akatosh), Khenarthi (Kynareth), Magrus (Magnus), Mara, and S'rendarr (Stendarr). A second litter of children soon followed, including Merrunz (Mehrunes Dagon), Mafala (Mephala), and Sangiin (Sanguine), among others. Ahnurr did not want further children, but Fadomai was presuaded by her elder children to birth one more litter, this final group containing Azurah, Nirni, and the moons. At this, Ahnurr became angry at Fadomai, who fled to the void, and birthed one last child, Lorkhaj. Fadomai knew she was dying, her life having been drained by her birth, but she gave to Nirni a gift, that she would birth children of her own.

Nirni went to Lorkhaj, asking him to form a dwelling place for her children. This he did, but he tricked his siblings, forming the mortal plane and trapping many of them there with him. Most of Fadomai's first litter were trapped, while her second litter saw the danger and fled. Into this dwelling, Nirni birthed many children, the various human and mer races of Tamriel. However, one of Fadomai's children, Azurah, had also been given a gift by their mother. She was given permission to take one of Nirni's children, and reshape them to her own liking, so long as she made them the fastest, cleverest, and most beautiful of all creatures. Azurah chose a group of forest dwellers among Nirni's children, and from them, she formed the Khajiit. Nirni was furious at this, and ask her sibling Y'ffer to punish the Khajiit. He did this by turning their grasslands into a dry desert, and their forests into poisonous marshes. The Khajiit, however, were protected by Azurah, who taught them the secret of the moons (the Lunar Lattice in Khajiiti terms), and how to change their shapes to survive. Those forest dwellers who stayed true to their mother, Nirni, were turned into the Bosmer, and given the lush forests of Valenwood as their home.

There is some speculation as to how accurate this creation myth truly is. What is known is that Khajiit were present on Tamriel when the Ayleid first explored the region, presumably long before there was any established Bosmer kingdom. What is not known is how long those Khajiit were in the area, nor how many other meri expeditions landed on Tamriel prior to the Aldmeri immigration (evidence suggests at least one other mass immigration of elves to Tamriel, resulting in the Dwemer of Morrowind). Some Imperial scholars believe the Khajiit evolved naturally from non-sentient cats, much like they believe the Argonians evolved from non-sentient lizards. Topal described the Khajiit as two and four legged cats with only primitive behaviors, and no clear signs of intelligence. However, Ayleid legend tells of bartering ownership of the forests of Cyrodiil from the Khajiit in exchange for the secrets of literacy, and Pelinal Whitestrake, early in the First Era, claims to have fought and killed thousands of clearly organized, sentient Khajiit warriors, believing them to be Aldmeri.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:53 pm

Can you imagine if it became an option in some future Elder Scrolls to play as the Alfiq? Wouldn't that be a twist?!

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:43 pm

Can you imagine if it became an option in some future Elder Scrolls to play as the Alfiq? Wouldn't that be a twist?!

Why do you want to play a housecat which can't speak? :unsure2:

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:32 pm

Why do you want to play a housecat which can't speak? :unsure2:

LOLz - I saw some guys video, working on some mod stuff for skyrim - he was playing as a Dog!

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:55 pm

Hmmm, Alfiq....oh the roleplaying possibilities...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bIJZDHQ0D4&feature=related

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:13 pm

Yes for fun i is ok. But in a whole game? wouldn't make sense to me. Then they should make a slap stick game, so that nobody says a word.