(Relz) Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.33 : IV - Oblivion

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:47 am

Another small problem, When i get expelled from the mages guild in Anvil it teleports me to the top of Frostcrag even though I have not done the frostcrag quest yet.

and just a quick question does OOO alter the creatures in the official DLCs to balance the game out?

The first has nothing to do with OOO. And both yes and no to the second. You can access lots of high level armor in Mehrunes Razor that you wouldn't if OOO controlled it - on the other hand some enemies, such as the vampires, are from OOO lists and will be more powerful than otherwise. KotN is also harder with OOO as it shares a dungeon with it, but OOO doesn't affect its unique creatures.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:52 pm

Re: the "equipped royal saber/sword" message I posted about earlier

Here is my current LO. I'd love to hear any suggestions that might explain this. If details about the bashed patch options are needed I will gladly provide those as well. The only thing I can think to mention there is that I do have OOO scripts imported, but not factions or relations due to FCOM.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  VASE - core.esm08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0D  NNWAEMaster.esm0E  CM Partners.esm0F  CustomSpellIcons.esm10  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]11  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp19  WindowLightingSystem.esp1A  Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp1B  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1D  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp1E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1F  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]20  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]++  RealWalk.esp21  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2]22  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]23  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]24  STHotkeys.esp25  DLCHorseArmor.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]26  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]27  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp29  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp2A  BlackLuster.esp2B  Forestlight Armor.esp2C  Thieves Arsenal.esp2D  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp**  Armamentium female.esp2E  DANOWeaponsWarMammothMount.esp2F  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp34  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp37  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]38  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]39  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]42  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp**  FCOM_Archery_Armamentarium.esp++  FCOM_Archery_Artifacts.esp**  FCOM_Archery_RealSwords.esp++  FCOM_Archery_MMM_H&C.esp++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]**  Fransfemale.esp45  Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp46  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]48  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]49  AutoMagicon_Cobl.esp4A  GlenvarCastle.esp4B  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp4C  LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp4D  MountainTower.esp  [Version 6.0]4E  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2]4F  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp50  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp51  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.3.2]52  TheForgottenShields.esp53  NRB4+ForgottonShields Patch.esp54  Tona's_ModsStore.esp55  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp56  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp57  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp58  DLCfrostcrag.esp59  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp5A  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]5B  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]5C  TOTF.esp5D  The Lost Spires.esp5E  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp5F  MannimarcoRevisited.esp**  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]60  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.5]61  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.1]62  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.4]63  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]64  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]65  bartholm.esp66  bartholm - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]67  JADDockTunnel.esp68  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp++  FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp69  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6A  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6B  ANB_Item_Switchers.esp6C  AutoBookPlacer.esp6D  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp6E  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]6F  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp++  GotNoClass.esp70  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]71  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]++  Short Grass V3.esp72  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]73  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]74  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]75  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp76  StarX VVR_OOO Patch.esp77  EnchantmentMastery.esp78  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]79  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]7A  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]7B  MidasSpells.esp7C  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]7D  Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp7E  Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp7F  nGCD.esp++  nGCD Birthsigns.esp80  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp81  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]82  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]83  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Immediate Character Generation.esp84  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp85  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp86  CTAddPose_osr1.esp87  CTAddPose_osr2.esp88  CTAddPose_osr3.esp89  actors_in_charge.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp8A  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp8B  SkinMannequinCOBL-nosleep.esp8C  TheOubliette.esp8D  Get Wet - just droplets.esp8E  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2]**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp8F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]90  Bashed Patch, 0.esp91  SWalk.esp92  FormID Finder4.esp93  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:21 pm

In Leyawiin there is a very nice bow in the fighters guild first floor which has a hard lock on it, problem is you can loot it without even opening the case. Also alot of fish seem to be on the land not sure if this is OOO or not.

Also I have a security skill of 27 and iam able to open Very hard locks is this normal?

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:20 pm

Also I have a security skill of 27 and iam able to open Very hard locks is this normal?

That's one I think even I can answer... No, that is not normal. But it doesn't sound like an OOO problem, either. Could be wrong about that, but the not being normal part I'm certain of.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:24 pm

Also alot of fish seem to be on the land not sure if this is OOO or not.

Fish on land most likely is from MMM Diverse Waterlife, get the updated version that is posted in MMM thread post 3..

You really need to post your load order so that we can see what else you are using?

And it should be posted with bash so that we can see your version numbers. go to save tabs right click on save and select list master copy and paste

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:01 pm

Fish on land most likely is from MMM Diverse Waterlife, get the updated version that is posted in MMM thread post 3..

You really need to post your load order so that we can see what else you are using?

And it should be posted with bash so that we can see your version numbers. go to save tabs right click on save and select list master copy and paste

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:53 pm

Wrong thread

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:47 pm

Re: the "equipped royal saber/sword" message I posted about earlier

Here is my current LO. I'd love to hear any suggestions that might explain this. If details about the bashed patch options are needed I will gladly provide those as well. The only thing I can think to mention there is that I do have OOO scripts imported, but not factions or relations due to FCOM.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  VASE - core.esm08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0D  NNWAEMaster.esm0E  CM Partners.esm0F  CustomSpellIcons.esm10  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]11  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp19  WindowLightingSystem.esp1A  Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp1B  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1D  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp1E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1F  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]20  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]++  RealWalk.esp21  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2]22  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]23  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]24  STHotkeys.esp25  DLCHorseArmor.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]26  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]27  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp29  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp2A  BlackLuster.esp2B  Forestlight Armor.esp2C  Thieves Arsenal.esp2D  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp**  Armamentium female.esp2E  DANOWeaponsWarMammothMount.esp2F  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp31  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]32  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp34  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp37  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]38  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]39  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]3A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]42  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp**  FCOM_Archery_Armamentarium.esp++  FCOM_Archery_Artifacts.esp**  FCOM_Archery_RealSwords.esp++  FCOM_Archery_MMM_H&C.esp++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]**  Fransfemale.esp45  Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp46  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp47  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]48  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]49  AutoMagicon_Cobl.esp4A  GlenvarCastle.esp4B  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp4C  LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp4D  MountainTower.esp  [Version 6.0]4E  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2]4F  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp50  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp51  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.3.2]52  TheForgottenShields.esp53  NRB4+ForgottonShields Patch.esp54  Tona's_ModsStore.esp55  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp56  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp57  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp58  DLCfrostcrag.esp59  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp5A  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]5B  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]5C  TOTF.esp5D  The Lost Spires.esp5E  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp5F  MannimarcoRevisited.esp**  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]60  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.5]61  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.1]62  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.4]63  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]64  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]65  bartholm.esp66  bartholm - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]67  JADDockTunnel.esp68  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp++  FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp69  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6A  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6B  ANB_Item_Switchers.esp6C  AutoBookPlacer.esp6D  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp6E  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]6F  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp++  GotNoClass.esp70  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]71  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]++  Short Grass V3.esp72  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]73  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]74  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]75  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp76  StarX VVR_OOO Patch.esp77  EnchantmentMastery.esp78  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]79  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]7A  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]7B  MidasSpells.esp7C  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]7D  Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp7E  Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp7F  nGCD.esp++  nGCD Birthsigns.esp80  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp81  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]82  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]83  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Immediate Character Generation.esp84  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp85  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp86  CTAddPose_osr1.esp87  CTAddPose_osr2.esp88  CTAddPose_osr3.esp89  actors_in_charge.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp8A  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp8B  SkinMannequinCOBL-nosleep.esp8C  TheOubliette.esp8D  Get Wet - just droplets.esp8E  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2]**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp8F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]90  Bashed Patch, 0.esp91  SWalk.esp92  FormID Finder4.esp93  Streamline 3.1.esp

Sorry, but I can't see what might cause it. We have rather similar mod lists. Most Royal weapons are from Adonnay's Elven Weaponry, for example Royal Sabre, so it has probably nothing to do with OOO. Still weird.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 pm

Here is my load order

oblivion.esm
allnatural base.esm
oscuros oblivion overhaul.ems
dlcshiveringisles
allnaturalreallights
allnatural
allnaturalsi
enhanced economy
dlchorsearmour
dlcorrery
dlcvilelair
dlcmehrunesrazor
dlcspelltomes
dlcthievesden
oscuros oblivion overhaul
ooowaterweeds
ooowaterfish
vaultsofcyrodiil
zabankmod
dlcbattlehorn
dlcfrostcrag
knights
harvestflora
harvestflorashiveringisles
harvestfloradlcvilelair
harvestfloradlcfrostcrag
bountyreductionovertime
sychearnoevil
ngcd
1em_Vilja
enhancedeconomysoulgems
nvidiablackscreenfix

I dont use bash, last time I used it I got problems (probably because i didnt know how to use it)

All the above problems i posted are using this load order.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:05 pm

Sorry, but I can't see what might cause it. We have rather similar mod lists. Most Royal weapons are from Adonnay's Elven Weaponry, for example Royal Sabre, so it has probably nothing to do with OOO. Still weird.

Thanks for looking at it, anyway. Like I said, it does not seem to have any adverse effects... it's just, as you say, weird! If I ever do manage to track it down, I'll let you guys know.

Thanks again,
veg

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:34 pm

I dont use bash, last time I used it I got problems (probably because i didnt know how to use it)

All the above problems i posted are using this load order.

It's time for you to start using Wrye Bash. You need it for All Natural, which you're using, so it's a necessity for your current mod list. Also, it would be much better if you posted your load order via it, as versions can be crucial.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:33 pm

Hi again this is my order via Wyrebash I took ur advice and got it, ive still no idea on what files to merge though. This is the setup iam using thats letting me pick very hard locks with a security skill of 27. The locks iam talking about are the one in Skingrad Warriors guild with the good sword (very hard) and the one in Leyawin with the Malatta Quinga (hard).

Active Mod Files:
? 00 Oblivion.esm

? 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]

? 02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

? 03 nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

? 04 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

? 05 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

? 06 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

? 07 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

? 08 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.2]

? 09 DLCHorseArmor.esp

? 0A DLCOrrery.esp

? 0B DLCVileLair.esp

? 0C DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

? 0D DLCSpellTomes.esp

? 0E DLCThievesDen.esp

? 0F Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

? 10 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

? 11 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

? 12 AleswellHomeQuest.esp

? 13 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

? 14 za_bankmod.esp

? 15 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

? 16 DLCFrostcrag.esp

? 17 Knights.esp

? 18 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 19 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 1A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 1B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

? 1C BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp

? 1D sycHearNoEvil.esp [Version 1.0]

? 1E nGCD.esp

? 1F 1em_Vilja.esp

? 20 Companion Neeshka.esp

? 21 Rhianna.esp

? 22 Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp [Version 4.2]

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:13 am

Lockpicking and Repair are Both Random chance, OOO limits you somewhat from attempting the harder ones at lower levels, but, other than that, it's Not unusal to be able to get one open.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:29 am

It should be +39 to your lockpick skill is the lowest you can attempt.

A hard or Very Hard should be impossible with a lockpick of 27.

That said, if the chest isn't placed by OOO or vanilla and adjusted by OOO, then the script doesn't apply.

Also, it's possible to disable the lockpicking skill requirement with Cobl or with a console command. If you did that before removing Cobl, it will still be in effect.

fake edit: Wait, that explains it. Display cases are classified as doors and OOO doesn't add lock scripts to doors.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:33 pm

It should be +39 to your lockpick skill is the lowest you can attempt.

A hard or Very Hard should be impossible with a lockpick of 27.

showler, I was looking for these stats and had a harder time finding them than expected. Are they in the readme?

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:56 pm

The locks iam talking about are the one in Skingrad Warriors guild with the good sword (very hard) and the one in Leyawin with the Malatta Quinga (hard).

OK, I thought it was a general issue. The one in Skingrad is the one that already is open, right? That should be closed/locked and should be fixed in the next release. Thanks for reporting it as said.

The one in Leywawiin's Fighters Guild with a Malatta Quinga was even odder as 1. You can open the Hard lock with low skill and 2. You can take the bow through the glass w/o opening the display in the first place. SO thanks for reporting that as well.

There can be some OOO containers that are wrongly set up. I remember dev_akm double checking them, but there are a lot of them.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:27 am

As I posted earlier, Displays are doors and don't have OOO scripts on them

Vegetabill, I don't think the exact numbers are listed anywhere. You have to read the scripts themselves to see the +39 modifier.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:59 pm

That said, if the chest isn't placed by OOO or vanilla and adjusted by OOO, then the script doesn't apply.

Not sure if those two are placed by OOO, but even if not I think the one in Skingrad should be closed/locked and the one in Leyawiin checked as it's kind of immersion breaking to be able to grab it through the glass if nothing else. I doubt Sotobrastos meant it that way, but I'm not sure of course.

EDIT: And is that true in all cases? I remember earlier issues that were fixed:

"Fixed the container scripts so that certain NPCs would not have trouble updating Quest Stages due to container-interaction changes. For example, in the quest The Best Thief (where Methredel would fail to steal Amantius' stuff properly). All containers related to quests should perform their functions without any problems while being enhanced by OOO's container scripts."

Seems like vanilla containers with OOO container scripts? :unsure:

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:43 am

OOO added containers have OOO lock scripts.

Vanilla containers are almost all changed by OOO so they will have lock scripts as well, unless changed by a different mod.

But no doors have OOO lock scripts. They haven't had them since near the beginning, as far as I can recall. And Displays are classified as doors in the CS, so OOO doesn't put scripts on them.

OOO is not affecting those display cases in any way.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:31 am

Vegetabill, I don't think the exact numbers are listed anywhere. You have to read the scripts themselves to see the +39 modifier.

Gotcha, thanks... That's helpful!

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:50 pm

OOO added containers have OOO lock scripts.

Vanilla containers are almost all changed by OOO so they will have lock scripts as well, unless changed by a different mod.

But no doors have OOO lock scripts. They haven't had them since near the beginning, as far as I can recall. And Displays are classified as doors in the CS, so OOO doesn't put scripts on them.

OOO is not affecting those display cases in any way.

OK, got it. Anyway, they should be fixed IMO as they contain high valued OOO items that are just free for the taking as it is now.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:03 pm

Yeah if they get these display cases sorted so its harder to unlock that would make this awesome mod even better.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:14 pm

I have been playing http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27302 and found a lot of similarities of this mod and the style that OOO infold his quests in Cyrodiil also there are a lot of camps, dungeons and bandies in roads. I'm wondering if OOO or FCOM team can join their effort with System Shock (author of the preceeding mod) to extend and enrich OOO/FCOM functionnality to Elsweyr Desert of Aquequinat.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:15 am

Wow - just started a pure mage. I'm having a really hard time with it in Vilverin and even on the roads. One NPC enemy is a challenge. Two and I'm dead. Any tips? Is this simply a job for the difficulty slider?

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:02 pm

Wow - just started a pure mage. I'm having a really hard time with it in Vilverin and even on the roads. One NPC enemy is a challenge. Two and I'm dead. Any tips? Is this simply a job for the difficulty slider?

The first few levels are a Pain, save often, and look for the weaker vilians...