Does anyone know how to remove the opening spells of Flames and Healing from the Player, other than to remove them from the Player BaseObject?

I have tried scripting it but that doesn't seem to work. If I change the Player baseobject that the conflicts with any other mod that changes the Player baseobject.

Scripting should work you can certainly remove spells in a script. where did you try scripting and how.

I am happy to be corrected but from what I have tried scripting won't do it. I have tried a script on the Player, a Quest script and a Magic Effect script.