Reserved Keyboard Controls For Actions That Are Not Listed!?

Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:51 am

Go ahead and add me to the list of users angry about this. I've been using arrows/keypad since the mid-90's and learning to use new controls is like learning to walk again.

I've been waiting for this game for ever, and I'm so mad I could just spit. If I could return it, I would.

I'm not your target audience, I guess...I'm an old guy (48). Learning to use new keys in games like this is almost impossible: For over 20 years I've used the same keys, and now every time I try to jump, I svck up an expensive stimpak.

I cannot fathom any reason why I shouldn't be able to designate my own keying. As it is, I just can't play. When things get heavy and fast, I'm always going to default to my instincts/training, and it just isn't going to work.

This really svcks, Bethesda. Game looks beautiful--I'd love to be able to play it.

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Maya Maya
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:48 pm

I'm in the exact same situation, but I was lucky and managed to refund in time.

This is, frankly, ridiculous! Years of wait, only to get to here.

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Lauren Graves
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:24 am

Bump

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David John Hunter
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:37 pm

I was SURE that Bethesda would make a BETTER Fallout and PPPFFFTTT!!!!!!

I have mapped movement to my arrow keys since Duke Nukem 3D.

So following that logic the keypad 0 is my jump button.

I have wasted ALL MY STIMPACKSSSSS BLAHHH

Please fix this really serious mistake and let us freely map all the keys.

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Elizabeth Davis
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:41 pm

Add me to the list of people who are not happy with the keyboard situation. I to am a arrow key user this makes my number pad 0 key my jump also, this is a disaster there is no way I can play this game with the key arrangement the way it is. I would NEVER have bought the game If I had known this would be the case. I also use the number pad for many of my actions, I don't even use the left side of my keyboard. Now I am stuck with having to search for keys I never use a enjoyment killer for sure. I thought locked keyboard keys went out years ago.

I understand that this can be fixed with a mod. But seriously Bethesda, this is a mod that should never happen please patch and make this right.

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RObert loVes MOmmy
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:39 am

I'm right there with you. Been using ESDF for 20 years so this is really svcking the enjoyment from the game. I tried using wasd but just can't, my hand always go back to the default typing position. Anything that is hard coded to E needs to rebind to what you bind Acitvate to or they need to allow for full editing of all key mappings. They really dropped the ball with this one.

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Louise Dennis
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:09 pm

Same problem and frustration here.

Enjoyed and am still playing FO3 so was eager for this. Played last night and at first it seemed good. The more I played, up to just getting out of the vault I realised I was getting more frustrated with the keyboard assignments, and found myself last night spending more time looking for a possible workaround than actually playing the game.

As with many others, for years and in many games, I use the arrow keys to move forward and backwards and to strafe, turning and looking up and down with the mouse (y inverted), R shift to sprint, R ctrl to crouch/sneak, Enter to activate, Numpad 0 to jump, numpad 1 or numpad del to reload and the end, home, page up, down keys for vats and inventory etc.

As with previous posters I found myself applying, and wasting, stimpaks at full heath, when intending to jump, and as also mentioned the looting was confusing, ie using enter (activate) to loot single items, while then having to look at the keyboard to hunt for the e key to loot from a container. Also looking for A to turn the locks while I could do it with the arrow keys in FO3.

So in the end, I was at work during the day, eagerly looking forward to getting home and playing, and as the evening went on my persistence to persevere with it finally wore off and as said, I found myself trawling the net for solutions, as I have done now this evening lol.

I would really still like to be able to play it, so I don't think i'll try for a refund (if I still can). I've just downloaded autohotkey so will try that.

Edit. For me I have put jump to my right mouse button as ive used on occasion before, and put aim to the middle button. The unlisted reserved keys seem to be for inventory items selected as favourites. I moved stimpaks to key 4 so that prevents me using them unexpectedly, though I think I only have one left, while numpad0 now does nothing if pressed out of habit for jumping. All though not ideal, I can live with having to look for and press the e and a keys as I would be stationary anyway when looting or picking locks. At least the game is now more playable and hopefully enjoyable.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:27 pm

Haha, I don't want to know how many stimpacks have been wasted with the intention to jump... :D

Has Bethesda already given a official statement when this hillarious thing gets fixed? Would love to play the game...

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:33 am

...right the hell now? My sig may show you the way

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Mrs shelly Sugarplum
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:54 pm

when is the hotfix being relased that fixes that major problem?

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Prisca Lacour
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:37 pm

+1

I am in your position EXACTLY!!!

I just don't get it. and it makes me really angry that publishers these days piss all over the PC gamers.

I can honestly say I will never buy a Bethesda game ever again.

MIND BLOWING!

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marina
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:24 pm

Bump I'm not a left hand user but I have been using the arrow keys to the left of the number pad for years simply b/c I like seperation between my movement keys and other keys and this really blows.

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Svenja Hedrich
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:52 am

Want to keep this near the top for support.

Another example is my middle mouse button is set to activate which allows me to take things that aren't in containers but things that are its defaulted back to E....why...why not keep using my middle mouse button?

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Juan Suarez
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:31 am

You'll want to map E to your mouse button 3 and it should be able to do both without problem.

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Eliza Potter
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:18 pm

I've never remapped anything before how would I go about doing this outside of the game then?

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Tai Scott
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:58 am

one of the builds I'm working on in my thread uses the mousewheel button for interaction. I'll probably have that one finished tomorrow and the file compiled and posted

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Amy Melissa
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:04 am

This is just beyond baffling that we've regressed to the point of not being able to rebind our keys.

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Ruben Bernal
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:17 am

Yesterday a friend asked me what Fallout 4 was like (actually many people did as I had it loaded up half the day).... but i wasn't actually playing it.

I was fuming that i wouldn't be able to play this game comfortably! I told him about the control issues i was having and after mentioning to him that i really could not be arsed to set up AutoHotKeys again, he said "Do you have a Macro Keyboard?"

Dunno, I thought.... i would assume it would being a rather pricey RGB K70, never had the need to use any.

By midnight I had figured out Macros and got them working well with Fallout 4, I can now use End as both Activate and Take, Numpad 0 as Reload and Transfer.

If any of you have a Macro keyboard and haven't considered setting it yup for use with Fallout 4, give it a go!!

For those of you who have a Corsair game keyboard, try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70563411/-%3DGames/Fallout%204/-Fallout%204.rar profile... I don't know if the Macros would be linked though, tell me if this is the case.

I have it set up like this:

Arrows - Movement
R Shift - Jump
R Ctrl - Crouch (Sneak)
Numpad 0 - Reload

End - Activate/Take

Insert - Stats

Home - Inventory

Page Up - Data

# - Map

Numpad 1 - VATS

Del and Page Down - Previous and Next Target in VAT (Instead of A and D)

Backspace - Back (also opens Pip-Boy)

Numpad 4 - Torch

Numpad 7 - Holster Weapon - Wasn't aware there was a torch, although it looks like Night Vision.


The odd coloured keys in the profile are F8 for Shadowplay and Scroll Lock is Steam overlay

God this forum is slooooooooooow :cry:

Accidentally submitted this before I'd finished, thanks to having the Fallout 4 keyboard profile active, now I can't submit the full post :(

Forum down or something!? Awesome timing :(

Profile edited slightly.

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:32 am

I'l lefthanded AND an azerty user. I cannot use the WASD keys. I tried remapping to the arrow keys but that makes movement impossible in workshop mode.

Please fix this Bethesda. Why not allow general rebinding of keys?

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Travis
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:51 pm

Bethesda please free workshop binding too. Left click turn left the selected item, right click to right. Drives me crazy....

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:48 am

I use a wireless 360 controller on my pc problem solved
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:12 am

At least this issue is on the PC Bug Report Index http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1544248-bug-report-index-pc/ under Confirmed Bug Report: Severe Issue

Also the latest beta (1.2.33) has this in the patch notes:

  • Number pad keys can now be used for remapping
  • Remapping Activate now works on Quick Container

Here's hoping they get this all sorted by the next official patch.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:55 pm

Hi all,

Luckily I have been able to play this game thanks to macros, it really is a beautiful game when you get past the pitiful keyboard situation, I feel for those of you who have been unable to play this yet.

For those of you who are still struggling to play this with the default keys, you may want to install this mod: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2107/?

I have not tried it yet as I would have to set up new macros. I should do though as, typing in steam overlay etc is a bit of a bugger when the Backspace key is Tab !!

Hope it help ;)

One thing it does allow, is the ability to use arrow keys.. and move whilst in the workshop!!

I must admit.. due to the workshop being a nightmare when unable to move... I've been using Xbox pad and am getting quite good at it, the shame :blush: FU Bethesda !!

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Amelia Pritchard
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:59 pm

F12 takes a screenshot.

Other ones that can't be changed I have discovered: A and D are for lockpicking,

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Niisha
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:32 pm

Razor Nostramo works quite well in both hands , I only use keyboard for typing text. (I know it's still crap about keybinds but does solve all gaming problems)
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