Returning to fix BSOD issues

Post » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:29 am

It's time for me to fix the BSOD issues I've been having with Skyrim, and frustratingly enough, also with Empire Total War. Couldn't do anything the last three weeks because my brother was away, and if anything went wrong, who could I blame? I just didn't feel comfortable messing about without him around, and since he comes back on the weekend, it's time to try all of the other diagnostics out there.

I downloaded something named CPUID Hardware Monitor, only I'm somewhat thrown by all of the various voltage numbers for the motherboard, the graphics card, and the power usage of the computer as a whole. Also, the idle temperature of the graphics card is holding at ~50 degress celsius, usually 51-53 until late evening when it seems to go to around 47 (at least it did yesterday).

Here's my set-up:
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A78LT-M-LE
AMD Athlon II X4 640
Nvidia GeForce GT 240
Memory 4.00GB
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1

So, what should I be looking for when testing Skyrim and other games that have acted up? I know that the card has a maximum of 105 celsius, so I shouldn't be too worried if it goes to 70-80 celsius (right? :blink:). What about the voltage for the motherboard? I see parameters for CPU VCORE (1.312V), +3.3V, +12V, -12V (-6.208V) and VBAT (3.296V). The Powers parameter has Package at 100.70W maximum, and it keeps fluctuating from 31.20 to 58.50 to 100.70, mainly sticking around 31.20. The voltages for the graphics card, VIN0, are holding at 1.000V.

Since the system becomes unstable after a BSOD event, causing a cascade of them and forcing me to shut the computer down completely for a short while, I'll probably have more than one chance at seeing what happens prior to a BSOD, and to see how one happening after a reboot from a BSOD goes down. I didn't do this before, and it probably would have saved some trouble (replaced the harddrive because that failed all of the manufacturer tests...unfortunately, it appears it wasn't responsible for my BSOD errors, but at least it isn't a potential factor any longer).

I wish the problems had not magically started up again, and they haven't happened for 3 weeks (haven't touched a single game in that time). Unfortunately, they always started outside of a game first, then migrated into Skyrim at a later date, and were consistent. Empire actually froze the entire system, and there was a BSOD upon booting into safe mode (it loaded the driver list, then kaputnik!). The errors all seem to point towards hardware or drivers; I did update to the latest Nvidia drivers (18th Feb) 3 weeks ago, but haven't put them to the test to see if that fixed the problem. Really want to figure this out, because I work extensively in Photoshop with very large textures, and hope to get back into using Maya - don't want any related BSOD events sneaking up behind me!
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DAVId Bryant
 
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Post » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:46 pm

It would be most helpful if we had the error code listed on the BSOD.

If there was a BSOD even in safe mode, then it is very likely it is a hardware problem.
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Post » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:05 am

The BSOD errors have been PFN_LIST_CORRUPT for the most part, with a DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL thrown in. The event when booting into safe mod was DRIVER_CORRUPTED_EXPOOL.

The BSOD events outside of Skyrim and Empire always happen soon after reboot, so something has been made unstable. It's easy to see why it may have gone away - the full reinstall could have easily temporarily fixed it. The errors I've had before it started in Skyrim were always shortly after start-up (although it took over a month the first time before Skyrim had any trouble, just a week and a half second time round). Empire didn't cause a BSOD itself, but it did hang the whole system, and I had to force the reboot.

I won't actually be testing until Sunday evening when no one else needs the computer, but knowing what to look for with the hardware monitor would come in handy, such as the voltage ranges on the motherboard. I noticed the -12V parameter, should it be lower than -12V? Currently it holds at -6.208V.
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