I think it's time for a EUROPEAN UNION, [censored] YEAH!!!-thread.

Yeah, one thing at a time fellers. Right?

Then can refuse to do business with them.

Yes it can.. it can make said companies adhere to European law, or get fined out the wazoo, like what happened to MS..



dernit Narm.. ya done gots me ninjered..

If you'd pay attention to the news, there seems to be a summit every other week to do something about the crisis. Kinda makes me wonder if that's part of the problem, agree to hold it down Greggs and we'd be out of the crisis in no time. Secondly, this and all other decsisions of this nature are about precedent, look that up too.

Someone in this thread is lacking common sense and general knowledge. No prizes for guessing who that is.

To me this seems like it will lead to even more strict DRM as the ruling outlines that once the software has been resold the user is legally obliged to delete any local copies they have. This means that if it was bought and sold through a service like Steam or Origin the software would have to be deleted from any computer/user connected to the account that resold the software. Publishers would push hard for these services to include a process that automatically deletes the software from the computers of the person who resold the software. They'll also probably push for the resale process being as cumbersome as possible.

if a company is doing business in places they dont reside in they are still liable to the law where they are doing business

Didn't they do this with that trading system? Or was that only for unused games?

In all honesty I think the EU needs to be slapped down with a multi-national lawsuit. They are becoming brazen little thieves that are really getting under my skin. Starting to believe they are launching these lawsuits in order to get companies to pay excessive fines to fuel their dwindling coffers.

That may not necessarily be the case. The judgment is based on Directive 2009/24/EC (which in turn is largely based on Directive 91/250/EEC). That same directive (both of them) defines a right to make a back-up copy for personal use (although under some restrictions which haven't really been clarified yet) but that hasn't exactly prevented companies from making sure that burned copies of their software won't function.

That said, after reading Directive 91/250/EEC, which has been drafted in 1991, I'm a bit surprised that it took this long for a case like this to be referred to the Court of Justice of the EU. I do vaguely remember a similar case but I don't recall the name and what the decision was, which is frustrating me immensely.

The EU is definitely better than America, especially on things like this, because in America, they're trying to make a law that anything you purchase (such as iPods, computers, even clothes) is protected so you can't resell them at all. How charming - it seems every day there's a new bill in the US that tries to turn it into a dictator state.

The EU as an entity doesn't sue people, they only have a judicial court to deal with such matters. People will sue over an issue in their own country, and if the issue relates to an area of EU law, it will eventually go all the way to the European Court. The best example of this I can think of is the case of this pub landlady who instead of paying the stupidly high fees that Sky wanted to show Football matches, switched to a Greek service that offered the same service for a tiny fraction of the cost. Sky said she couldn't and sued her, and so she took her case to the EU, who ruled in her favor.


You clearly don't know much about the EU