Serena Disappointment?

Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:58 am

I have to share my disappointment. I mean, she left her father to come find me at the Dawnguard. Why would she do that if she didn't care? And then we wander half of Skyrim while she talks about her dysfunctional family, and she listens while I talk about mine, all the while our eyes are locking over the flickering flames of a campfire.

She follows me through quest after quest, motivated by the desire to stop her father while I'm motivated by the idea that, if I just do enough for her, she realize how good we are together. I mean, why else do I keep doing these silly quests?

And then . . .

"No." Something about temples and what not. Really? The only person is Skyrim who is worth sharing a huge hall in the middle of a noxious marsh with, and now she can't commit? It's because I killed her father, isn't it? She just can't let that go.

Damn.
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Lisa
 
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:15 am

Serana will never be eligible because:

"You're sweet. And... I'm not stupid. I can see what you're getting at. But... that's just not something I'm going to be able to do. Ever. Given how I've lived... what I've done... I can't ask the gods for a blessing like that."

That's what you get if you tell her "No. I was just curious." when she asks about the amulet.

There's the unused

"Look, I care about you. A lot. And I'll come with you wherever you want to go. But... with everything in my past, I don't think I could bring myself to go into a temple and ask for that kind of blessing. It's just... it's not for me."

when telling her you want to marry her, but it's below the response about temples, which suggests that she was going to give the flippant temple response if her relationship with you was frosty (yes, the game tracks what you say to her and it matters) and the more heartfelt response if she liked you, but it's not implemented.

...And why oh why does everyone ignore me when I post these relevant quotes?
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:28 am

So basically you have no chance, marriage in Skrim isnt all its cracked up to be anyway.................
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:28 am

I was unaware Skyrim took place in Cyrodiil.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:52 am

So basically you have no chance, marriage in Skrim isnt all its cracked up to be anyway.................

Normally, I'd agree. But Serana is the first person that would make me rethink that proposition.

I was unaware Skyrim took place in Cyrodiil.

It didn't. That's called a mistake. And now it's fixed.

But thanks for pointing it out. I hope this makes your entire life complete. :smile:
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:51 am

marriage may be a bad mechanic in skyrim but, who cares. It's nice to have it officially done in the game rather than pretending for the next year.

Who cares if it makes her, "another drone"

She will become a drone regardless once all quests are done. All she'll do is repeat stuff over and over again. At least if you could marry her you'd get a few more things for her to repeat xD
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:09 am

LOL, OP that was real good. I was reading that post and thinking to myself "ok..these are all things one shouldn't be disappointed about.." and then you break out the last bit. Sorry guys, Beth don't wont you marrying her :(.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:25 am

You could just try to consider it like being married, only without an official blessing from a priest in a temple. Like Life-partners or something like that.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:39 am

I have to share my disappointment. I mean, she left her father to come find me at the Dawnguard. Why would she do that if she didn't care? And then we wander half of Skyrim while she talks about her dysfunctional family, and she listens while I talk about mine, all the while our eyes are locking over the flickering flames of a campfire.

She follows me through quest after quest, motivated by the desire to stop her father while I'm motivated by the idea that, if I just do enough for her, she realize how good we are together. I mean, why else do I keep doing these silly quests?

And then . . .

"No." Something about temples and what not. Really? The only person is Skyrim who is worth sharing a huge hall in the middle of a noxious marsh with, and now she can't commit? It's because I killed her father, isn't it? She just can't let that go.

Damn.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:02 pm

Funny thing is on my vampire character when I told her that I was already married she sounded sad/disappointed lol.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:07 pm

Serana...I like the sound she makes when she gets hit...so I hit her.

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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:27 pm

Lets see here for the case for Serana marriage.

From a RP point of view:

You first wander until you reach a guy who asks you if you want to join the Dawnguard, a vampire hunter group. You then make the LONG ( in Skyrim time) to Riften and then take the dangerous path filled with bears until you finally find a crevice. You then walk-in having a feeling to find the dawnguard. They give you a crossbow and some bolts then ask you to investigate dimhollow crypt. They ask you because the hall of the vigilant was ransacked. You walk in be greeted by a few vampires and death hounds. You then fight a master vampire and a named vampire. Lets see, the vampires were too stupid know how to unlock the chamber so you unlocked it. You see a mysterious woman with an elder scroll named Serana, who looks like a vampire. Instead of making her eat bolt or her attacking you, you decide to talk. After she figures out she is a vampire and you are human, she doesn't attack. She then asks you take her to her Castle which is half way across skyrim. She decides to spare your life and not drink your blood when she is home. Your character now chooses to be a vampire lord or stick with the dawnguard. If your character chooses to be a Vampire Lord, she still decides to adventure with you. If you side with the dawnguard she decides to find you and leave her castle (she doesn't know of the prophecy yet). She then asks you find her mother to make sense of everything. While trying to find her mother, you have talks about your history and her history and if she enjoys being a vampire. When she finds out that she is the key for the prophecy, she still sticks with you rather than leaving skyrim or hiding with her mother in Soul Cairn. She then comes with you in a falmer infested place and battles a snow elf with you. She then tells you that her father has to die.

vs

You get a some fire wood for some girl you just meet and sell it to her for a proposal.

Hints that you and Serana like each other:

- You/she betrays the dawnguard/vampires.
- When seeing a scenic place, she says she is glad to be with you.
- She is disappointed when you tell her you are married.
-For heck sakes she gives up her vampirism for you
- She bites you on demand to make you a vampire
- She gives you arrows with her blood on demand
- She tolerates the crap from the Dawnguard

You're sweet. And... I'm not stupid. I can see what you're getting at. But... that's just not something I'm going to be able to do. Ever. Given how I've lived... what I've done... I can't ask the gods for a blessing like that."

That's what you get if you tell her "No. I was just curious." when she asks about the amulet.

There's the unused


"Look, I care about you. A lot. And I'll come with you wherever you want to go. But... with everything in my past, I don't think I could bring myself to go into a temple and ask for that kind of blessing. It's just... it's not for me."

Don't tell me that. She lives with people who want to kill her kind, comes to temples with you and even attends you marriage if you get married. She is not afraid of temples. Even then getting married at the temple should be an option if you cured her or getting married at the blood fountain in the vampire castle if your both vampires and siding with the vampires.

Unless Serana is going to be relevant again another DLC (Which I would pay good money for), there is no reason for such emotional attachment and character development with the dragonborn with an epic rejection at the end.

No other character, I mean no other character has such character development. Aela doesn't even come close but is in 2nd place IMHO. And would it also be too much to ask to still discuss about each other's past after fishing the main quest rather than being generic 99% of the time.

Yes I'm working on a mod but its frustrating that Bethesda would just play with the emotions of people with any word about it.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:10 am

Wait, what? Don't tell you... what? That dialogue is straight from the Creation Kit. And if you're still harping about temples, I ask, did you actually read the dialogue?
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:31 pm

Yes, I'm currently working with the Creation Kit right now.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:44 am

She does give some valid reasons why she wont marry, shame that it is but i dont see how tinkering with a mod changes that, or are you into forcing her to marry you.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:32 am

The games hints to her having very strong feelings for the dragonborn (Regardless of gender), so its a little tease, maybe after the events of the game they end up getting married.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:12 am

I was dissapointed after finding out her mortal eye color is green with my mod load :drool:
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:22 am

She does give some valid reasons why she wont marry, shame that it is but i dont see how tinkering with a mod changes that, or are you into forcing her to marry you.

Nah, then I'd rather use console commands rather than banging my head on CK if its just a forced marraige. I'm trying to create a mod that will go in dept about her and how to fix her emotionally for marriage.
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