Is Shahvee glitched?

Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:08 pm

So Shahvee is glitched, right? You know, the only marriable female Argonian in the game? The wiki says she's supposed to offer you a quest to retrive her amulet for her to become eligible, but none of my 4 characters have ever been offred this quest by her. Weird thing is, I hear of a lot of people who married her, and neither wiki mentions this as a glitch with her. Am I alone in not being able to marry Shahvee?
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:07 pm

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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:16 am

Wow. Know this is an old thread, but I'm stuck here, too. Shahvee doesn't offer her amulet quest. I have no other quests pending (I'm actually done with the game's quests - all that's active for me now is the Dark Brotherhood Forever and a miscellaneous quest to talk to Companion leaders for work). I have done the quest for Amren already, and chose to marry Sylgja - so marriage to Shahvee isn't the issue - unless you have to be single to get the quest(?), and the Amren quest is long gone.

I play on PC and when I enter "sqs favor204" it shows "0: 1, 10: 0, 15: 0, 20: 0, 200: 1". So I thought maybe the game thinks the quest is active or has been completed. Therefore I tried "resetquest favor204" but she still offered no dialogue that leads to the quest.

Any fixes or feedback with this?

Thanks.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:37 pm

I got the quest in both of my games (may have been married to Muiri in one at the time). I did the quest where you help the male Argonian on the docks first, but I don't know if that matters. :confused:
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:11 pm

I've had her quest come up on some chars but not on others. No idea what its trigger is.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:55 pm

I'm reminded of a similar quest, but rather than a GO FETCH quest it's a KILL THIS BANDIT LEADER quest that you get from Ahtar, the headsman in Solitude. I recently found out that if you complete the side quest Lights Out! and clear out Broken Oar Grotto before getting the quest from Ahtar, he simply never offers you the quest and thus you can never get him as a follower.

Granted that quest and the one from Shahvee are two different things, but I wouldn't be so surprised if similar mechanics applied to Shahvee having you fetch her amulet of Zenithar. There's just no clear-cut reason why she won't offer it otherwise.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:32 pm

I recently found out that if you complete the side quest Lights Out! and clear out Broken Oar Grotto before getting the quest from Ahtar, he simply never offers you the quest and thus you can never get him as a follower.
That's why I never got a quest from him on my assassin chick. :P
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:40 am

You may not receive Shahvee's quest if Amren's quest has been triggered. Finish up Amren's task, and after a little while, Shahvee should let you do her quest.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:18 pm

I'm reminded of a similar quest, but rather than a GO FETCH quest it's a KILL THIS BANDIT LEADER quest that you get from Ahtar, the headsman in Solitude. I recently found out that if you complete the side quest Lights Out! and clear out Broken Oar Grotto before getting the quest from Ahtar, he simply never offers you the quest and thus you can never get him as a follower.

Granted that quest and the one from Shahvee are two different things, but I wouldn't be so surprised if similar mechanics applied to Shahvee having you fetch her amulet of Zenithar. There's just no clear-cut reason why she won't offer it otherwise.

You know, I bet you're right. I never get the quest from Ahtar either, but even when I've held off on Lights Out! Makes me think that maybe once you clear the random dungeon that going to get associated with a quest like this, the game stalls on the quest.

You may not receive Shahvee's quest if Amren's quest has been triggered. Finish up Amren's task, and after a little while, Shahvee should let you do her quest.

I have already done Amren's quest ^
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:58 pm

You know, I bet you're right. I never get the quest from Ahtar either, but even when I've held off on Lights Out! Makes me think that maybe once you clear the random dungeon that going to get associated with a quest like this, the game stalls on the quest.



I have already done Amren's quest ^

Free-Winter's Kill the Bandit Leader and other similar missions will also interfere with Shahvee's quest triggering.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:45 am

Free-Winter's Kill the Bandit Leader and other similar missions will also interfere with Shahvee's quest triggering.

...and I have done (probably) all the other favor quests ('cept Ahtar's), so no doubt killed Shahvee's somewhere along the way.

I was looking through console commands and the Creation Kit, and noticed that Shavee's quest-giving line seems to be linked to her mood. When she's sad, the PC should be able to get the prompt line, "Your people have bad luck?" but she's always in happy mood when I greet her. I tried various "setav mood (tried various numbers from 0-9)", "modav mood (#'s)" and "forceav mood (#'s)" - the system replies that the console and script cannot be used to "modav" or "forceav" mood, but the command to "setav mood" is accepted, but doesn't have any effect on her state that I can see - my PC still gets the line about "Are you always this happy?". I have also tried "addtopic favor204getfavortopic" in combination with various "set av mood" #'s (I'm not sure what # corresponds with sadness, so I keep running through them all) and also without messing with her mood: all to no avail. And as stated, have also tried "resetquest" and various "setobjectivecompleted" commands - but all have been fruitless.

I'm thinking that if I can figure out how to use the console to force her to at least offer the quest, then the same mechanics may help with Ahtar and/or Ghorbash (has anyone ever gotten the quest to get Ghorbash's ancestral axe?). And, once the NPC at least gives the quest - even though the quest may stall out later (like arriving at Uttering Hills to "Kill the Bandit Leader" but because Linwe is already dead, you have a quest marker floating over nothing) - you can at least (on PC) use the console to advance and complete the quest (sorry console gamers - I know you couldn't probably care less) at that point - which at least gets you the item, follower, or whatever result accompanies the completion of the quest. Whew. Wordy.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:43 am

I'm reminded of a similar quest, but rather than a GO FETCH quest it's a KILL THIS BANDIT LEADER quest that you get from Ahtar, the headsman in Solitude. I recently found out that if you complete the side quest Lights Out! and clear out Broken Oar Grotto before getting the quest from Ahtar, he simply never offers you the quest and thus you can never get him as a follower.

Granted that quest and the one from Shahvee are two different things, but I wouldn't be so surprised if similar mechanics applied to Shahvee having you fetch her amulet of Zenithar. There's just no clear-cut reason why she won't offer it otherwise.
Uhm, but Athar's quest involves killing a captain who's residing in Broken Oar Grotto. As far as i've experienced, it's practically impossible to keep the captain alive while trying to kill the leader from Broken Oar Grotto, as they always stick to each other. So I assume the game bugs out if you kill the captain before actually getting the relevant quest.

... which reminds me: I'm not sure if I did accept Lights Out! beforehand, but I know the headsman did walk up to me once and started rabbling about that escaped prisoner of his (i.e. the captain) and if I didn't want to clean up this little mess he was too lazy to do himself. I told him to sod off 'though, and he never mentioned it again. But I hadn't yet cleared Broken Oar Grotto by then.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:34 pm

Uhm, but Athar's quest involves killing a captain who's residing in Broken Oar Grotto. As far as i've experienced, it's practically impossible to keep the captain alive while trying to kill the leader from Broken Oar Grotto, as they always stick to each other. So I assume the game bugs out if you kill the captain before actually getting the relevant quest.

... which reminds me: I'm not sure if I did accept Lights Out! beforehand, but I know the headsman did walk up to me once and started rabbling about that escaped prisoner of his (i.e. the captain) and if I didn't want to clean up this little mess he was too lazy to do himself. I told him to sod off 'though, and he never mentioned it again. But I hadn't yet cleared Broken Oar Grotto by then.
Indeed it does. That's why I said it's impossible to get after completing Lights Out!, since that captain fellow never seems to respawn, or Ahtar just never gives the quest. If you mean one failed quest begets the other, like if you complete Ahtar's quest first THEN do Lights Out!, well...I'm not sure if Lights Out! would be broken. That's a good question though.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:04 pm

Indeed it does. That's why I said it's impossible to get after completing Lights Out!, since that captain fellow never seems to respawn, or Ahtar just never gives the quest. If you mean one failed quest begets the other, like if you complete Ahtar's quest first THEN do Lights Out!, well...I'm not sure if Lights Out! would be broken. That's a good question though.

On my previous playthrough I purposefully avoided starting Lights Out! just to allow Ahtar to offer his quest - and even with no other favor quests pending, it never triggered. I've done 3 total playthroughs and a few partial playthroughs, and it seems that Ahtar and Shahvee are the most likely favor quests to get messed up (and I'd add Ghorbash to that list but I've never even been able to confirm that he ever gives a quest to find his ancestral axe - so maybe that was never even implemented in the game - I just see his axe listed on the UESP unique items page and in the Prima guide's unique weapons section). I've never gotten a quest from Ahtar (or Ghorbash) and only once gotten the Shahvee quest.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:40 pm

I was looking through console commands and the Creation Kit, and noticed that Shavee's quest-giving line seems to be linked to her mood. When she's sad, the PC should be able to get the prompt line, "Your people have bad luck?" but she's always in happy mood when I greet her.
Is it possible that her mood is related to her outlook about you? Neutral, friend, etc?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:33 am

On my previous playthrough I purposefully avoided starting Lights Out! just to allow Ahtar to offer his quest - and even with no other favor quests pending, it never triggered. I've done 3 total playthroughs and a few partial playthroughs, and it seems that Ahtar and Shahvee are the most likely favor quests to get messed up (and I'd add Ghorbash to that list but I've never even been able to confirm that he ever gives a quest to find his ancestral axe - so maybe that was never even implemented in the game - I just see his axe listed on the UESP unique items page and in the Prima guide's unique weapons section). I've never gotten a quest from Ahtar (or Ghorbash) and only once gotten the Shahvee quest.
Yeah, Ahtar's kinda broken. I looked into it and even accepting a bounty for Broken Oar Grotto messed it up. He's very sensitive.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:25 pm

Is it possible that her mood is related to her outlook about you? Neutral, friend, etc?

Totally possible - in fact, now that you mention it maybe just being too well-liked in Windhelm has an effect. I'm actually going to see if I can mess around with her relationship rank and maybe that'll make a difference... and nothing: I tried setting her relationship to everything from "lover" to "arch-nemesis" and she still has the same greeting, etc. it seems to have no impact whatsoever. Maybe there's some other variable we're missing. *sigh*

Yeah, Ahtar's kinda broken. I looked into it and even accepting a bounty for Broken Oar Grotto messed it up. He's very sensitive.

Three observations:
  • Hey! We're both Long Islanders
  • That was your 666th post
  • Ahtar's a sensitive executioner
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:01 pm

Three observations:
  • Hey! We're both Long Islanders
  • That was your 666th post
  • Ahtar's a sensitive executioner
1. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
2. Same as above but with horns.
3. Terribly sensitive. I was hoping that killing his lady friend, Jala, would lead him to take over the fruit stand but it was not so.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:15 pm

Ahtar's quest conflicted with some other "kill that bandit leader" radiant quests for me. I think, in my case, he conflicted with the quest of our all favourite mother-in-law from Darkwater Crossing (who's name I happen to have forgotten at the moment.) Once I had finished that one, Ahtar offered me his quest instantly, even though I was already at the stage of Lights Out where you're supposed to enter the Grotto.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:08 am

Ahtar's quest conflicted with some other "kill that bandit leader" radiant quests for me. I think, in my case, he conflicted with the quest of our all favourite mother-in-law from Darkwater Crossing (who's name I happen to have forgotten at the moment.)
Annekke Crag-Jumper! I'm Crag, nice to meet you. XD Now are you sure that one was conflicting? Because there's a TG one that can break Annekke's quests and you can't get her as a follower. :confused:
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:55 am

Yes, I am absolutely sure that I didn't run into that conflict with the Thieves Guild and Annekke. However, if you have her quest and did run into that TG quest conflict, then you can as well forget about Ahtar's quest, because Annekke's quest will block his.

For the record, my brand new vampire managed to get the quest of Shahvee just now. I didn't have any "fetch an item from a dungeon" quest active or done yet, I had barely just arrived in Windhelm, and I hadn't re-established the TG back into Windhelm yet - her quest led me into Uttering Hills Cave, so I suppose there might be issues if you've done/are doing Summurset Thieves.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:54 am

Yes, I am absolutely sure that I didn't run into that conflict with the Thieves Guild and Annekke. However, if you have her quest and did run into that TG quest conflict, then you can as well forget about Ahtar's quest, because Annekke's quest will block his.
Damn. I was actually able to do Annekke's 'follower' quest after the TG one because she sent me somewhere else (I think 1.4 fixed that), but Ahtar's was bugged before that so I'm sure Lights Out! messed up Ahtar's for me. :P
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