For a long time my view has been stormcloak, but now I'm starting to feel like the Legion is the better way to go. Should I forget my stormcloak past, or should I stick with Ulfric?

If the answer is Legion, give me some good reasons why.

Do both.

See the war on both sides.

The question is, what works best for your character?

After four Stormcloak characters in a row, my current character will be joining up with the Imperials. My reasons are all related to HER story. She had no home until she came to Skyrim and settled in Whiterun. She loves Whiterun and wants to protect it. Her loyalty to Balgruuf and to her new home drive her actions, and she feels joining with the Imperials is the only option for her. She's an Imperial by blood but she's just now starting to understand what that means.

When she traveled to Windhelm she was struck by the racial disparity. She feels that Ulfric is not evil, but misguided.

Now, keep in mind that I'm a long-time 'Cloaks supporter. I love me some Ulfric. I find the 'Cloaks just more fun to play. But this character calls for something different. It's as simple as that - it's not "which side is better?" but rather "which side is this character more likely to support?"

Only you can answer that for your character.

Do not only both, but also do a neutral with the peace talks, and a stormcloak with the peace talks(After whiterun is taken).

This. ^

I've played a neutral character (she just couldn't decide which side she thought the lesser evil) and then a dedicated SC supporter (which was fun). One of my new characters will join the Legion he's an Imperial who simply cannot side with the Nord rebellion (and I want to do the CW questline on the Imperial side as well), and the other upcoming character is a Dunmer who will join the Legion but then switch sides.

Personally, I'm rather neutral, leaning a little to the SC side, and also a huge fan of Ulfric's. So I tend to choose that questline, but let the characters decide.

There is a man in Riften at Mistveil Palace who gives the best answer as to why the Empire is right and the Legion is the real choice in the Civil War. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but it basically goes like this:

While Ulfric Stormcloak has a legitimate point about the banning of Talos and is a good Nord warrior, he is a terrible leader and his reasons for the rebellion are completely selfish. If you listen to Ulfric while on the Stormcloak side, you can basically confirm all of what the man says - Ulfric is completely selfish, is power-hungry and bloodthirsty and is using the resentment and anger felt over the banning of Talos to gather more people to his side in order to take power for himself and sate his lust for battle and power. Ulfric really doesn't care about anyone who isn't a Nord, and even then barely cares about anyone other than himself. To further prove his insanity - he murdered the High King, who was actually sympathetic to his anger, rather than rationally trying to deal with the issue.

He also knowns nothing of leadership, and barely has the smallest grasp of sound battle tactics - he gets schooled in tactical and strategic decisions by someone who has never been in combat before.

Basically, siding with the Stormcloaks ends up weaking Skyrim rather than making it stronger, and sets it up to be the Thalmor's #$$^# after the Empire leaves. Its also technically siding with the losing side of the war - without the Dragonborn's involvement, its basically impossible for the Stormcloaks to win - a few Stormcloak soldiers talk about it, and the Imperial Legates mention that the only reason the Empire hasn't already won is because they haven't had the time or ability to bring in a full Legion to deal with the rebellion because they Imperial Legion is tied up doing so many things.

We should also not forget the only reason the Thalmor are so active in Skyrim is because Ulfric had to throw a hissy - something everyone on the Stormcloak side conviently likes to forget.

Honestly, a stormcloak supporter really only makes sense to me as a Nord. And if you're a nord, then it can go either way SC or Legion. Maybe a dunmer too, who wants to help better his people's situation in Windhelm by proving himself to the Nords there.

What are you talking about? If you listen to Ulfric speak, it actually confirms the opposite of being power hungry. Do the stormcloak side and listen to his conversations with Galmar. Also, who the hell are you talking about when you say he got schooled in battle tactics by someone whose never been in combat? Tulius? He's one of the top Generals of the Empire, and Ulfric is still holding his own. Get your facts straight. And Torygg being "sympathetic" is meaningless if Torygg wont act against his beloved Empire. The people who say he would've sided with Ulfric dont know that at all. They're just saying that because they're biased against Ulfric. And it wasn't murder, it was a duel. High Kings are expected to accept any duel that their Jarls may challenge them with. And the Stormcloak victory wont weaken Skyrim. Skyrim has many farms and mines, and other resources that would normally go to the Empire and Cyrodiil, that they can now use to rebuild and trade with. The Thalmor would have two enemies instead of just one. Three actually, because of Hammerfell, and a few years later, trade with Cyrodiil will more than likely start between the Empire and Skyrim just like with the US and Britian after the revolution. The Thalmor dont want a stormcloak victory anymore than an Empire one. So it really doesnt matter what side you pick, since both will spell trouble for the Thalmor. And the Thalmor were in Skyrim before Ulfric "threw a hissy" which by the way, the Empire was fine with Ulfric taking back the Reach and making it a Talos haven, til their Thalmor masters came calling their dog. And Titus Mede obeyed like a good little mutt.

Power Hungry/Bloodthirsty. "People need time, Galmar. Time to weigh things in their hearts, they have families to consider.", abandons skyrim's most esteemed position to help with the war, waits 30 years before he decides the empire isn't going to do anything. Yep. Impatient, insane, bloodthirsty. Those are all telltale signs right there.


Oh...you're delusional. *sigh*


So that's why Rikke keeps reminding Tullius that "more flock to his cause every day". That's why there's so much rebellion and strife in Cyrodiil. Because people actually love the empire.

The empire was losing the war in skyrim until Tullius arrived and turned it into a stalemate.(Hadvar tells you this)


Every legion supporter seems to conveniently forget that it was Mede who let the Thalmor into Skyrim.