The truth rarely helps, but that does not stop it from being true.

And as i have said before, i did not pay hard earned money to attempt to find solutions or work-arounds to problems that should never have existed in the first place!! I paid money for a product marketed to be equal to it's counterparts on other platforms. It is not so much to ask that a game developer supplies a game that matches the marketing campaign!

I have just sat through the 20min demo Todd commentates over, and the resounding thought? "Wow... That's what this game SHOULD look like..."

The truth rarely helps, but that does not stop it from being true.

And as i have said before, i did not pay hard earned money to attempt to find solutions or work-arounds to problems that should never have existed in the first place!! I paid money for a product marketed to be equal to it's counterparts on other platforms. It is not so much to ask that a game developer supplies a game that matches the marketing campaign!

I have just sat through the 20min demo Todd commentates over, and the resounding thought? "Wow... That's what this game SHOULD look like..."

will sleeping work? I don't see why not but I just want ya'll's opinion.

The truth rarely helps, but that does not stop it from being true.

And as i have said before, i did not pay hard earned money to attempt to find solutions or work-arounds to problems that should never have existed in the first place!! I paid money for a product marketed to be equal to it's counterparts on other platforms. It is not so much to ask that a game developer supplies a game that matches the marketing campaign!

I have just sat through the 20min demo Todd commentates over, and the resounding thought? "Wow... That's what this game SHOULD look like..."



The fact is, this "fix" isn't that at all. It's a major annoyance, and something that will have to be done for hours on end to even have a chance of solving the problems.

There is no fix that you and I can do. The only people that can fix it, are Bethesda, and given the fact they are the ones who deemed the current coding acceptable in the first place, my hopes are not high.

I don't think there's any confusion about that. Everyone is on the same page.

The way I see it, it could be weeks before gamesas gets a patch pushed through Sony's Format QA, even if they already have it fixed.
In the mean-time, there's no reason not to be proactive and experiment with finding a workaround.
Admittedly, this is a lame one, but if nothing else, it could help resolve whether or not the problem is savedata size-related like everyone suspects.
Or it may be pointless.

We don't need to get angry at each other.

I am by no means angry at anyone in the community, and apologise if it comes across that way, but i am frustrated to the max here! Only the people who deemed this game acceptable to be published are being lambasted by me. And as i've stated before, i didn't pay for the inconvenience of trying to fix problems that should not have existed in the first place, and that don't exist on copies of the supposedly "identical" game on different platforms!

Complainig is not helping providing info on what we believe is happening is helping and so far thats the save file memory reaching astronomical heights causing the game to lag and crash.

Are you drinking again? Because you are saying the same thing only louder.

I'm sorry, i did not pay 50€ to do their QA work.

Fact of the matter is, i believe they already knew about this well before the game launched.


Do you even know that it's related to game save file? Aren't the save files as big on the 360 version?

Do you even know that it's related to game save file? Aren't the save files as big on the 360 version?

and why wouldnt they fix it in the day 1 patch if they did know about it riddle me that

Because they didn't care enough to put it right?

And by that logic: If they didn't know, WHY didn't they know? It's a very widespread issue which would have been discovered with adequate testing. Riddle me that...

Because they didn't care enough to put it right?

And by that logic: If they didn't know, WHY didn't they know? It's a very widespread issue which would have been discovered with adequate testing. Riddle me that...

I've been telling people the game is fine since release and then my game hit 7mb file size the other day. Since then my game has got more and more lag to the point that it catches or freezes when NPCs talk, when I move my camera 360 degrees inside a city or outside in the world and when I move foward faster than walking. I was just about to ditch the piece of [censored] and play it on my PC and had the thought of doing the ol clear data cache trick. Loaded it up and it works like when I first started playing.

I know people have tried it and not much has happened but if you are over 7mb, give it another go, it can't hurt. It really did work for me.

Maybe they did most test on the 360 or used a certain type of ps3 but idk only Bethesda knows.

Then that would not equate to "adequate testing". Each version of the game should have been thoroughly tested, on multiple consoles, of different ages and HDD sizes.

It is inherently obvious, this has not happened. And thus, Bethesda are left with an extremely unhappy group of consumers who demand they put things right.

They have shot themselves in the foot by not making sure the game was fit for purpose before allowing it to be sold, because as i've discussed previously, they have left themselves wide open for a class-action lawsuits.

I'll go get the pop-corn just tell me where your gonna get [censored] by Bethesda's lawyers.

I'll go get the pop-corn just tell me where your gonna get [censored] by Bethesda's lawyers.

How do you clear the cache

Unfortunately, i am not in a financial situation that allows me to persue such noble endeavours. However, i still remain hopeful one of our colonial cousins in the states , who do tend to love a lawsuit , picks up the baton and gives Bethesda an almighty whack!

And i never said the class-action would win, i merely stated that there are clearly grounds to start one.

Have you seen blade? It's a good movie( 1st one). You know those humans that chose to be pets and food for the vampires?

That's you.

Delete the install data on your hard drive, re-install but leave the update one alone. May or may not work but it helped me a lot.