Skyrim: Availability

Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:49 pm

But this doesnt take away that there are no vallid reasons to dislike steam, like you seem to suggest.
Not at all. It just seems that with everyone on this forum that says, "I HATE STEAM!" , if you ask 'why?' they respond "BECAUSE I DO LEAVE ME ALONE!". There certainly are some reasons to dislike it, though I'm not sure about completely hate with all your heart. And I especially think people are full of crap if they wont even state those reasons.

Plus, yes, Valve and gamesas assume you have internet. But, considering that nowadays more people have access to internet can cars, and like 99% of people (In the US) have it, I don't think that's an outrageous thing to expect at all. Not having internet is like being that one caveman who still does have any fire...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:36 pm

My gripe with steam is the question whether I can still register/play my steamified retail games a few years down the line. Valve may drop support, Valve may be taken over by another company, etc, etc. Promises to deliver a patch that dismantles the online registration requirement should such an event occur have been made, but a promise is still only a promise. Though the same question can be asked with any other online registration scheme, so it's not even a Steam-specific gripe.

Another thing that is a major annoyance for me with steam is that it just refuses to remember whether you've set a game to "update automatically" yes/no. It always resets back to the default enabled automatic updates when steam is (re-)launched. Another annoyance with regards to those updates is that steam will only update to the latest patch. There are valid reasons why always updating to the latest patch may not be beneficial. Mod incompatibility for example, or for example to wait a little while before applying a patch using your fellow gamers as guinea pigs to verify if a patch doesn't "break" the game.

Though, as far as the above are concerned, there are cracks and manual updates available for nearly every Steam game. So if the need arises I could always revert to those. Even though I don't think I should need to as an honest paying customer.

That said, Steam does work decently. It's certainly the lesser of evils imho. I have thus far never decided not to buy a retail game just because it has been steamified, if I want to play a game and I think it's worth the cash I'll buy it nonetheless.

And no, except for a few indie games I have never bought games directly off Steam. I still prefer my games retail.

I later found out that you CAN run in offline mode. I try to remember to put it in offline mode at the end of each play period. Reason being: if you want to play and for some reason your internet is down, you cannot play because you have to get INTO Steam to put it in offline mode. Caused my son to miss out on a week of playing all his Steam games when he moved into a new place and had no internet.

^That's nonsense^. :dry:

If Steam tries to connect to the Steam servers when you launch it, but the connection attempt fails due to for example there being no internet connection, then it will automatically give you the option to launch Steam in off-line mode. Just give it some time (a few seconds usually) to stop trying to connect to the servers, and the option to start it in off-line mode will alwaysshow. If you don't get that option then there's obviously something wrong with the system, not necessarily with steam.

The only time an internet connection is required is for registration. Meaning: initial registration, and in many cases periodic (few months interval afaik) follow-up registration verifications. Other than that an internet connection is not needed, steam should always work in offline mode, and always offer to start in offline mode if online mode is impossible. I haven't seen it behave differently anywhere.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:51 am

I have never had an issue with Skyrim running on PC with Steam. None. I don't think you know what you're talking about at all. As a matter of fact, I only had one CTD and it was due to a bug within Skyrim that was patched


Grats that't you and that patch was downloaded via what? Oh that is right the Steam client.

VAC is maybe the only part of the security that works and since Skyrim will never use it (officially, mods for online play aside) the reason for Steam is non existent. Should one be able to buy the game through Steam? Sure But I don't think it should be required and if it is(Deus Ex HR) at least make sure it works well through Steam.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:18 am

THERE IS A STEAMless version welcome to the internet
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:02 am

The whole reaction against Steam seems baseless to me. It's inconvenient if you have no internet connection, this is true, but that's the case for a radically shrinking portion of the PC gaming population. Even if you don't, it's still possible to take your laptop to someplace that has WiFi access - Starbucks, some McDonald's, and a bazillion other places. If you're using a desktop computer and no internet connection, I'm sorry, but it's a bit odd to expect software developers to work to accomodate your 1995 era requirements.

Seriously, I got Supreme Commander 2, not knowing that it required download over the internet. I thought it was just verified over the internet. I did this while I was at Fort Benning, GA being recalled into active duty in the Army. I got moved to Camp Shelby, Mississippi, which is near not much at all, and started the download process over a crappy wifi connection on-base. It took a long time, so I had to do it in chunks and in fact didn't complete the process until I was in Iraq working off my internet connection over there, which needless to say is not like using a cable internet connection in the States.

Still, slow process or not, it worked and I can play the damn game in offline mode, without any internet connection. So even if you don't have internet, you're still good, just take it somewhere you can hook up to a wifi signal. You're fine unless you both have a desktop computer and no internet, in which case you could still cart your damn computer to a Starbucks or whatever if you were really so determined.

Somebody's a city slicker who thinks everyone and their cat has internet.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:22 am

I remember that miserable day I had to buy a new fangled CD drive, even though the games worked perfectly well on the 124 floppy disks they came on previously. Damn all this progressive technology, next thing you know, we'll have games with realistic graphics and cheaper distribution costs that allow indie developers to sell as many games as EA.

Boo hiss future technology!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:00 am

There is a Steam topic here, please use it, and discussion or advocating of avoiding the Steam check will get you unwelcome moderator attention.
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