» Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:55 am We understand some are tired of waiting, some are angry and some have or are giving up. We want to continue to have a place for you all to discuss and vent your frustrations and desires and thus we will try to allow this one thread to remain for everyone to do that.
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In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as this forum to bait users into responding. They may also plant images and data that others may find disturbing (usually indirectly relating to the individual in person) in order to cause confrontation.
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Insulting individuals or groups of members and name calling are flames. Any remark that is made to insult or demean another member or group of members will be considered a flame and thus you may receive a warning for it.
Calling people a troll or an apologist for instance can both be considered a flame as can calling someone stupid or ADD. Attacking Xbox players, PS3 players or PC players is not allowed and calling them "console kiddies" or in anyway indicating someone is in some way a lesser person because of their choice is considered a flame here.
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Please feel free however to contact the moderator involved, another moderator you feel comfortable with, our community manager Gstaff or another admin if you disagree with a moderator action. Our moderators do not mind taking a second look or discussing an action with the other moderators and admin to assure they have acted fairly. So if you think you've been treated wrongly or that unfairly, be sure to send a PM. Sometimes moderators make mistakes.
Please feel free however to contact the moderator involved, another moderator you feel comfortable with, our community manager Gstaff or another admin if you disagree with a moderator action. Our moderators do not mind taking a second look or discussing an action with the other moderators and admin to assure they have acted fairly. So if you think you've been treated wrongly or that unfairly, be sure to send a PM. Sometimes moderators make mistakes.
And please read our rules pertaining to criticism.
8. The only criticism that is allowed here is constructive criticism and that is welcome.
Constructive criticism criticizes a proposed idea. Criticism that is directed against one person, be it a modder, another member, an individual developer, a certain moderator or a group effort are all forbidden.
This means that when you voice your concerns, please do so in a way that offers a vehicle for improvement. If you see something going wrong, feel free to say so, but also say something about how to set it right.
Constructive criticism criticizes a proposed idea. Criticism that is directed against one person, be it a modder, another member, an individual developer, a certain moderator or a group effort are all forbidden.
This means that when you voice your concerns, please do so in a way that offers a vehicle for improvement. If you see something going wrong, feel free to say so, but also say something about how to set it right.
Latest info provided by Bethesda:
From Gstaff:
I've seen folks posting that we're holding the PC release and that's not the case. There's a lot of work that goes into getting the content ready for both platforms.
I can understand that. I don't have the information to share right now, but when I do, you'll be hearing from us.
I can understand that. I don't have the information to share right now, but when I do, you'll be hearing from us.
Don't worry, I don't. I know you guys just want answers as quickly as possible, and I'm working to get those answers to you. It's an ongoing process and there's always factors to consider (testing, submissions, coordinating with Sony, Steam, etc). We're working on all of these things behind the scenes and as everything comes together and is finalized, we'll be able to provide more details to you guys. It should be soon , but at this exact moment, I can't tell you how soon.
There's no definitive release information for PC or PS3 yet, but we'll let you guys know as soon as we can.
