Must resist...joke about moms and mounted combat...ahh it's okay.

Skyrim HAS mounted combat.

In the latest episode of "SentUAMessage" which gives you an update on what new things are coming to the XBox 360 they were discussing the new support for Kinect.

The footage shows mounted combat.

It's available on the XBox Dashboard right now.

Az

Edit - I suppose that should say "Will have mounted combat".

^OMG You better not be joking. *Turns on dusty xbox*

I am 90% sure about this.

Go to the Dashboard and Videos and select "Inside XBox".

You should be able to see the latest SENTUAMESSAGE in there.

Az

Alright, I see the episodes, OH MY GOD!!!!

B-bu-but that doesn't necessarily fix riding horses in first person, but that's an easy moddable fix, right?

As has been mentioned, if they made horses faster than running, everyone would just go archer and easily hit and run everything without needing to spend a single point in stamina. Having NPCs ride horses is not a viable solution, because of performance issues, but also because most outdoors NPCs are not human. But if they keep them as slow as they are now, and implement another reason to make them useful (such as carrying extra loot, and perhaps even portable alchemy and enchanting mini-tables), then I can see it working.

However, there are gameplay complexities introduced by mounted combat. For starters, they'd need to disassociate mouselook from horse turning, to make aiming practical (and not have horses spinning 180 degrees instantly). Horse turning would then need to be controlled by the strafe keys, meaning you could be pointing in one direction with the horse moving in another. This would make mounted combat much harder than combat on foot. And then people would start screaming for a horse speed boost, and we'd be back to square one.

Well, it looks like I'm going to have to practice my aim in third person. I can't believe how excited I am to hear this! I believe a mod is in order to make mounts first person? I haven't needed to check for one yet, and it may not be compatible once this update comes out.

So I remembered right then?

I was pretty sure you saw a character attacking a giant while on horseback.

Az

"Check out the horses in Assassins creed, thats how you do horseriding in games."

Absolutely! ACII horseback combat rocks!! I wish Skyrim had that.

Mounted combat is so unneeded, it's staggering how many people want it.

Haven’t read whole thread but Red Dead Redemption had EXCELLENT horseback fighting. Archery like on horseback would be epic.

Gotta laugh at this statement. With all the things in the game that already allow you to become totally invincible is attacking on a horse really going to ruin anything? It would just be one more thing you could choose to do or choose not to do. Just like smithing your gear so that nothing hurts you, or creating potions that allow you to one shot any mob in the game, or hell, simply double enchanting every piece of gear with high level enchants that make you completely overpowered. In the context of that game world, killing something from the back of a horse is the least of your worries.

What, big fat things that are incredibly slow?

Horses in Read Dead Redemption were pretty good, but I'm not they would be in Skyrim, seeing as they were fast as lightning.

Disagree with the op, I dont think this game needs horse combat at all. But I agree with the premis that horses in general are badly implemented in the game, a horse doesnt get knackered after a minute or two of light galloping and moves at a much higher speed that in the game.

You have absolutely zero proof of that. I'm even more sure of that than two plus two equaling four.

Because console gamers are stunted fools.

Every console gamer is this way? What a dreary world you live in.

I don't use my Cross-heir in the first place o.o
But I support Mounted combat, it would certainly increase the Value of Horses in the mindset, right now they're basically useless.
and a Hit and Run would be pretty hard, and certainly was not a extremely cheap thing to do in Legend of Zelda TP, in fact it was a bit harder to fight like that.

The main problem with mounted combat in this game is that the geography doesn't really lend itself to it very well. Most of the games that people have mentioned have a lot of flat, wide, open areas that you can fight very well on. But a lot of Skyrim's territory is mountainous with narrow paths that aren't conducive to having a good fight on horseback.

It realy should be possible though. There are lots of places that horse combat could be conducted, and it just feels stupid having to dismount to kill a single enemy, when you should be able to turn around and lop their head off.

Yes and no. Yes, Mounted combat is unneeded only because of the limited and convoluted terrain. Then again, the reason why so many people are wanting mounted combat is because is logical that in a medieval/fantasy-like world like Skyrim with warriors, swords, horses, etc., one would expect to have mounted combat at least sporadically . I personally don't want mounted combat perhaps even horses in Skyrim since the terrain is so twisted which makes the land even smaller than what it is.

Anyways, if Beth wants to implement mount combat in the future they should look at a franchise that has innovated mount combat better than any game developer out there: Mount & Blade(Warband). That game is simply remarkable in the mount combat. Is no big wonder why they have "mount" in the title of the franchise. This company really knows what a "horse" is. They have capture its personality perfectly. I guess is because the company is Turkish and the horse has been, one could say, a symbol, a tradition of the Persian world. They said that for many centuries the most coveted and elegant horses were/are the Arabian horses.

Would love to go Mammoth hunting on horse back

Hmmm..perhaps you forgot to put an emoticon to your "brilliant" and " generalist" post ?


The real problem isn't geography.As i've said before its the way horses are that is totally wrong,the scenery its ok if you plain carefully were to fight.

In Red Dead Redemption horses were credible in their behavior,animations,speed etc..in Skyrim not at all. They're only an ulterior "decor" at the actual state.

And this is sad after all this years and various good examples from other developers in that regard.

That too. For mounted combat to be viable, the horses need a complete overhaul. I remember seeing Todd Howard talk about not giving horses saddlebags because he didn't want to "force" players to use horses or give a sense that they were mandatory or some kind of anchor. Apparently the alternative is to make them such an anchor that the player has absolutely no incentive whatsoever to ever even consider using them.

Nothing worse than having to get off your horse to splat a pissy little spider, horse combat is needed to teach puny creatures a lesson.
Or at least let us control their attacks while riding them.

Oh, on PC BTW. Not only console players want horses that are of actual use.