SOPA, PIPA Stalled: Meet the OPEN Act

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:47 am

I just read that another bill is out.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248525/sopa_pipa_stalled_meet_the_open_act.html

As to Megaupload
The owner seems to be no different than the big biz that's after him.
He has acquired millions of dollars from pirating and I think he's going to get his just desserts...
in fact I know he will 'cos he's being extradited to the USA - where no doubt he'll get jail time.

On a side note: "He was arrested in a safe room in his house and the cops had to saw their way in".
A safe room should always have a secret exit - otherwise it's a cell not a safe room.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:56 am

They think nerds don't like soap, so they changed the name, and a bit of the wording. To be honest, this doesn't seem to be enough to satisfy me in the wake of the way the mega-upload seizure was done (without due process).
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:22 am

I just read that another bill is out.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248525/sopa_pipa_stalled_meet_the_open_act.html

As to Megaupload
The owner seems to be no different than the big biz that's after him.
He has acquired millions of dollars from pirating and I think he's going to get his just desserts...
in fact I know he will 'cos he's being extradited to the USA - where no doubt he'll get jail time.

On a side note: "He was arrested in a safe room in his house and the cops had to saw their way in".
A safe room should always have a secret exit - otherwise it's a cell not a safe room.

He did fail in escape plan rule number 1

Rule #1: Have an escape plan.
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Charlotte Henderson
 
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:12 pm

SOPA, PIPA, and OPEN Act it's the same b.s. but with different names.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 11:15 pm

Actually OPEN seems reasonable. I havent read the bill yet, but it definatly sounds good to me in terms what needs to be done for piracy.

Anyone have a link to the bill?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:21 am

I [censored] hate America sometimes. I hate the goverment at all times.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:50 am

The only issue seems to be that any reasonable bill to do anything will be hated and immediatly stomped down. We have to eventully deal with piracy before it becomes an actual issue.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:34 am

The US pretends to embody freedom, but the internet was the last true front of freedom, and even that's going to be censored soon. Ending piracy only helps the 1%, and gets rid of a valuable distribution front for the actual artists.
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 9:58 pm

The only issue seems to be that any reasonable bill to do anything will be hated and immediatly stomped down. We have to eventully deal with piracy before it becomes an actual issue.
Screw that, that helps the people that want the internet censered! I'm not going to help that. Steelshot has it right.
The US pretends to embody freedom, but the internet was the last true front of freedom, and even that's going to be censored soon. Ending piracy only helps the 1%, and gets rid of a valuable distribution front for the actual artists.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:51 am

The only issue seems to be that any reasonable bill to do anything will be hated and immediatly stomped down. We have to eventully deal with piracy before it becomes an actual issue.

It's really not that big of an issue or at least one that Congress can take care of.

1. Companies do lose some revenue because of piracy, but that assumption that every single pirate would pay if piracy was not an option is ridiculous. A chunk of those people would simply not view the movie at all. So, in that situation nobody really gets hurt because either way the studios or artists would not make money of the person.

2. Companies in some cases make revenue because of piracy. Sites like Youtube and Megaload do contain pirated material, but it also serves as a medium for promotion. There are several bands that I first heard about on Youtube and now I own some of their CDs. There are also some people that illegally downloaded those songs, but they are the same people I mentioned in #1.

3. How exactly are you suppose to find someone guilty of piracy on a mega site like Youtube? Youtube has no way of watchin' every single video and pirated ones will get through. However, many of those videos fall under the FAIR USE Act and how are we suppose to give those people a fair trial? If a company is based in Florida and wants to go after a "pirate" in North Carolina, how are they suppose to get a warrant and where will the trial take place?

4. Since a lot of the dirty work is done outside of the country the legal processes will be a mess.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:31 am

I'd much rather see the OPEN bill get passed rather than SOPA & PIPA. At least OPEN wouldn't get at least 2/3 of the Internet shut down the way SOPA & PIPA would...

Tim (aka the Slipperman)
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Post » Sat May 12, 2012 10:13 pm

The only issue seems to be that any reasonable bill to do anything will be hated and immediatly stomped down. We have to eventully deal with piracy before it becomes an actual issue.
Piracy is already ilegal. What all of these bills, and similar legislation in other areas of the law, are actually doing is granting the government special powers to prosecute without the entirity of due process. Infringing on the liberty of the citizenry is destructive, and the old stand-bye quote of Bennie Frank, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," and in this case nobody is even pretending that the bill would grant us safety.

If they wanted to close loopholes, and, say, make more piracy-related actions illegal and prosecutable through due proccess, I'd be fine with that.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:01 am

I'd much rather see the OPEN bill get passed rather than SOPA & PIPA. At least OPEN wouldn't get at least 2/3 of the Internet shut down the way SOPA & PIPA would...

Tim (aka the Slipperman)

I'd rather see none of them get passed! I [censored] hate Congress, America is turning into China it seems. At least China had the dignty to do it outright.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:42 am

Wow, this thread got derailed into an anti-America thread :confused:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:45 am

what prison is he going to? we gotta make sure no one messes with him
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:18 am

Wow, this thread got derailed into an anti-America thread :confused:
Just like any thread related to ESRB.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:01 am

Wow, this thread got derailed into an anti-America thread :confused:

Well, it is America's fault.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:27 am

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1335586-sopa-pipa-and-other-assorted-internet-censorship/
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