Why wasn't an option to convince the blades that killing Paarthurnax won't solve anything put in Skyrim.

I really like him and don't want to kill him. It makes me want to beat the living hell out of Delphine and Esbern.

Their hatred of Dragons went and blinded them from the bigger picture. Like that one guy from Dawnguard (want to beat the living hell out of him too).

What's more the truce thing has no neutral ending.

Why were these not considered?!

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Perhaps, there wasn't a option, because you probably have to befriend the Blades for a future DLC?

For the record - it's very stupid to put the spoiler in the title of your thread. Just sayin'. I already knew about this, but I've had things spoiled the same way.

That quest is only forced on you if you do Season Unending. If the CW is already finished, the Blades stay in Sky Haven.

You DO have the option to simply not do it. The Blades won't have anything to do with you if you refuse, though.

Giving certain Housecarls to the Blades as recruits is a decent way to get rid of them from the gameworld, without violating RP or doing anything evil.

Screw the blades. I left Parthy alive.

this would be incorrect.

You can complete the Civil War and then the MQ which does not get you Season Unending. This means when you return to Sky Temple for any reason after visiting Throat of the World, Delphine will give you this quest.

If you do Season Unending and do not want her to talk to you about this simply leave HH right after the meeting before she has the chance to talk to you. It won't be forced upon you until you talk to her again.

If your on the PC there are some very good mods that allow you to tell Delphine to shut up about it. That she is a Blade and the Blades serve the Dragonborn. She will then continue helping you normally and you can let him live. I use one of those mods. Its really cool. Your character will shout at her which shakes the room even.

If you complete the main quest, the quest disappears from your log but will reappear if you follow through with purging Paarthunax.

Until you do, you may not perform any Blades sidequests, although you can still induct followers into the Blades. Everything in the temple is stealing to take, though you can hang around as long as you want.

It's also possible to keep Paarthurnax alive until Arngeir no longer sends you to word walls, and then side with the Blades to get souls to unlock shouts.

probably to put some choice into the game. It wouldn't be much of a choice if you could just pick "the golden take a third option approach".

I simply did not follow through with it, and still will not until they patch the damn potion perk. >_>

I won't do it regardless. I'm one of the good guys.
When Delphine told Tiberius to kill one of his most respected allies, he told her to kiss his hairy dragonborn backside.

Being railroaded is your definition of "choice"?

then don't side with the dragon hating blades? its either the well ententioned extremists or the pacifist monks, your pick

Right. Chocolate or vanilla. Where's the option of saving the Blades from their own hubris and certain extinction?

Oh holy God. Really? Really? People kvetch about "no meaningful choices" and then when there are meaningful choices, it's "we're being railroaded".

Let me spare my dragon friend... you serve me anyway so whats the problem? And I'll bring you some recruits. Simple right? No? ok fine. i'm leaving. feel free to die here alone of old age in the temple if the forsworn don't figure out the way in is now open and kill you first.

3 choices are better then two.

Skyrim is not some super happy funtime land, there is not always some easy way out of pissing someone off, there is not always some way to worm yourself out of having to do something you dont like, and thats the point.
-Being forced to become a werewolf to continue the companions
-Being forced to sell youself to Noctrnal as part of the thieves guild
-Being forced to have to either kill Parth, not lose the blades as allies
Are all there becuase sometimes you just have to do some stuff you dont want to in order to get farther in life, thats the point.

People have ideals, and beliefs, and you cannot just talk them out of it in less then five minutes with some speech check, its illogical, nonsensical, and it only makes the chcaracters look like meat puppets that do everything the Dragonborn tells them to, and not like real people with real faults, and real beleifs.

Not being able to get BOTH the gryebeards and the blades on your side is what makes the choice a choice, being able to magically dispell decades, and in the Greybeards case, centuries, of hatred, over the course of a conversaton, and bringing the two sides togeather so no one hates anyone, only makes the choice pointless, and meaningless.

So having Esbern and Delphine sulk and not talk to you is a 'meaningful choice' ?

Why not an option like. 'No, I won't kill Paathurnax - now, can we work together at all, or do I walk out the door and you lot are on your own ?'

Becuase that defeats the purpose of the choice.

Losing acess to the baldes, the blades recruits, and esberns blessing/potions/dragon hunting quests, is what makes the choice of not killing Parth a REAL choice. Similarly, losing acess to the greybeards word wall finding, and PArth's words of meditatiion, is what makes killing him a meaningful choice also.

Being able to get both sides on your side, and thus get BOTH side's powers, defeats the prupose of having a choice to being with.

You don't have to get everything. With a compromise, you might lose access to the some things, shout bonuses, and the potion (if it ever works), for example.

And the Blades can say stick to their demand, so you leave, end of story. (instead of just having to ignore them).

Even the option to say 'No', and walk out, would be better than leaving it in limbo.

The blades do tell you no, we wont deal with you until you kill Parth, already.

Losing aid from the Blades is like asking me if I want a bowl of cheerios but I have to go get a job, buy a car, drive to the store and buy the milk for it.

OR

have this already prepared thanks giving dinner that just requires me to sit down and pick up my fork (side with parth who aided me instead of hindered me in the MQ)

Hmm pass that gravy please.

Delphine goes to Whiterun and talks to Farengar who asks you to seek out a tablet in Bleak Falls Barrow.. a Barrow that casts a shadow over Riverwood every morning. Riverwood, a town that Delphine lives in. She CLEARLY could have gone there herself but NO she doesn't Why? no one seems to know. So you go and get the tablet and return it to Farengar and there is Delphine talking with him when a guard rushes past and up to the Jarl yelling about some dragon attacking the tower nearby. Whats Delphine do? She calmly walks out of Dragonsreach and either goes back to Riverwood or the Bannered Mare for a drink. Even if by some chance in her old age she didn't hear the guard going on about dragons.. the smoke from the dragon attack is clearly visible from the gate. You'd think she would be interested in at least looking into it? I know I would if I suspected the return of dragons and wanted to find proof.

Then despite the fact she would not go through Bleak Falls Barrow she clears out a Draugr filled crypt and steals your horn for the Grey Beards. HOW does she even know you were after the horn? Was she spying on you at High Hrothgar? I've gone directly from HH to get the horn before and she beats me there every time. Why does she take your horn? Wants to see if you really are dragonborn? Wants to see if dragons really are appearing? You could have had ALL the proof you wanted if you were not getting drunk in the Bannered Mare with all the dragon attacking the tower gossip was going on.

THEN with no help from her you slay dragon after dragon, save the world and she sayd...

"Oh... yeah that dragon that taught you everything you needed to know about Dragonrend and helped you learn how to call a dragon... who is helping you focus on words of power. yeah him. Uh kill him or I will no longer help you."

Help me? you have been if anything... in the way the entire time! I can do without your help.

There is my choice when only given two. I don't need their blessing or their potions or see a need to give them my friends to live there in solitude when they had a better free life elsewhere. If I could close the large head thing on the way out I would and trap the two in there forever.

So what ? You can't tell *them* no.

Ah this topic's been cropping up more and more.
I didn't like Delphine from the moment I met her. So you know what choice I made.

Before they put Skyrim to bed, I want them to release a DLC where, in some way, I can look at Delphine, and in the style of the Iron Sheik, [censored] her good, make humble.