Stage Four Vampires and the College

Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:39 am

Hey, I joined the college at stage 1 and recently turned stage 4. They immediatly attacked me. My question is, aren't they supposed to be friednly to stage 4s? I'm on the mission revealing the unseen. I would really like to stay at stage 4, but won't be able to. I have no sneaking ability and have no plans on using it.

I know Dawnguard will fix this problem by not having stage 4s be attacked, but I'm on PS3 so I won't have that for a while.

Thanks!
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Rinceoir
 
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:22 pm

Only the dark brotherhood won't attack you at stage 4 everyone else will. You have embrace of shadows use that to get around winterhold and enter a house to feed at night to bring you down to stage 1 if you don't have points in sneaking or the muffle spell take off your clothes to sneak around the house.

Dawnguard is not out so you are going to have to deal with being attacked at stage 4 if you don't want to feed.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:40 pm

You answered your own question.....dawnguard.
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leigh stewart
 
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:28 pm

Damn, I thought all the guilds were friendly as long as you joined before. It seemed to be that way on my other character. Must of been a glitch.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:55 pm

You answered your own question.....dawnguard.
From my mind.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:25 am

It's not a problem to be fixed. You Should be attacked by everyone at S4. However, if you are S4 BEFORE you do a quest for someone and BEFORE you join a faction, then they will remain friendly, and even fight for you, as long as you do not revert to S1.

Feeding and reverting to S1, will reset their disposition. Thus, they will become hostile when you reach S4. At that point you cannot win favor again.

For the record, I do not see it as a "problem". You should be attacked at S4, until to win favor of the NPC and/or faction. The problem is the disposition being reset. If something is implemented to remove the AoS at S4 from the game....then, that is the problem.

On that note, this may be moved as we can't discuss Dawnguard implementations in the Gen Dis Forum.

I enjoy playing S4-24/7. It forces the player to use the gift of Illusion to advance through the game. The best bet, if wanting to play S4 all the time, is to get Vampirism, straight out of Helgen. And waiting a week, before even going into Riverwood.

EDIT : Hail Kraujas! :wavey:
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:20 am

It's not a problem to be fixed. You Should be attacked by everyone at S4. However, if you are S4 BEFORE you do a quest for someone and BEFORE you join a faction, then they will remain friendly, and even fight for you, as long as you do not revert to S1.

Feeding and reverting to S1, will reset their disposition. Thus, they will become hostile when you reach S4. At that point you cannot win favor again.

For the record, I do not see it as a "problem". You should be attacked at S4, until to win favor of the NPC and/or faction. The problem is the disposition being reset. If something is implemented to remove the AoS at S4 from the game....then, that is the problem.

On that note, this may be moved as we can't discuss Dawnguard implementations in the Gen Dis Forum.

I enjoy playing S4-24/7. It forces the player to use the gift of Illusion to advance through the game. The best bet, if wanting to play S4 all the time, is to get Vampirism, straight out of Helgen. And waiting a week, before even going into Riverwood.

EDIT : Hail Kraujas! :wavey:
I don't see being attacked a problem either. The only problem I see is that I joined the College a vampire, they comment all the time on my vampiric qualities and yet they still attack me. I'm sure when I [spolier]become arch-mage[/spoiler] they still will attack me. That is what I find crazy. I mean, you guys knew it all along, right....right?
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:14 pm

I don't see being attacked a problem either. The only problem I see is that I joined the College a vampire, they comment all the time on my vampiric qualities and yet they still attack me. I'm sure when I [spolier]become arch-mage[/spoiler] they still will attack me. That is what I find crazy. I mean, you guys knew it all along, right....right?
Ha! I do agree that the disposition should not be reset, once you have gained their favor. The only way around that is to be an S4 form the start and never feed. Unless you get a special ring, that allows one to feed on dead bodies. That will actually make your character stronger and thus remaining S4 all the time.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:20 pm

You only have to deal with that for bit longer until you get Dawnguard. I kind of wish they would have kept Stage 4 hostility in, but I can't do anything about it.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:24 am

Joinable guilds TG/CP/DB/CoW are supposed to be non-hostile towards stage 4 vampires, but they are for some reason.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:56 pm

Joinable guilds TG/CP/DB/CoW are supposed to be non-hostile towards stage 4 vampires, but they are for some reason.
The DB has never attacked me when I am stage 4 anyway personally I wish that in dawnguard they kept the stage 4 hostility in.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:42 am

You only have to deal with that for bit longer until you get Dawnguard. I kind of wish they would have kept Stage 4 hostility in, but I can't do anything about it.
I do too. I mean come on dawnguard made it way too easy to stay stage 1 vamp anyway.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:53 am

The DB has never attacked me when I am stage 4 anyway personally I wish that in dawnguard they kept the stage 4 hostility in.

Eh, I forgot the DB is cool with Vampirism/Lycanthropy. My bad.

Never bought DG, so not in the know about the hostility being taken out...though that might actually give me more of a reason to buy it. The whole Vampire mechanic doesn't make much sense in TES games, even less so in Skyrim, since your character doesn't even visibly change from stage to stage. If my Vamp chick looks the same at stage 4 as she does at stage 1, why is she getting attacked? No one should [censored] know. Now, if there was an actual transformation like Lycanthropy in the vanilla version, I could understand the hostilities. I mean, if they can tell I'm a Vampire through their [censored] esp, then they should be able to use that for Werewolf characters.
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Post » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:09 pm

Joinable guilds TG/CP/DB/CoW are supposed to be non-hostile towards stage 4 vampires, but they are for some reason.
The other three are fine with it, it's only the mages guild that attack you (pre-dawnguard).
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